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Re: CHL holder killed by police in Las Vegas at a Costco
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 10:34 pm
by austin-tatious
As I was stepping into my SmartCarry groin holster today to go to work, the thought came to me that a major part of what we've been discussing on this thread is fear of our gun being exposed. Well, a groin holster like the SmartCarry goes a long way to keeping what needs to be concealed...concealed.
I much prefer to use my IWB holster. I use it whenever I'm not going to the office. It's easier to get to the gun and more comfortable. But I'm much more conscious of risk of exposure with the IWB.
I absolutely cannot risk exposure at the office. It's not because it's against the rules. It's because I don't want the issue to come up at all. So I put up with the slight discomfort of having my XD40 stuck down in the front of my pants. But it hides the gun so well, no one will ever ask that infamous question, "Is that a gun in your pocket.
Re: CHL holder killed by police in Las Vegas at a Costco
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 10:53 pm
by mctowalot
IMHO, a holster shirt would be more comfortable than the groin holster. Ouch!

Re: CHL holder killed by police in Las Vegas at a Costco
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 11:05 pm
by Beiruty
If you shift smartcarry to your left a bit, it would be like carrying in your pocket. You can access from the zipper too, workable and it takes 3-4 sec.
Re: CHL holder killed by police in Las Vegas at a Costco
Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 6:08 pm
by austin-tatious
mctowalot wrote:IMHO, a holster shirt would be more comfortable than the groin holster. Ouch!

I have tried, not a holster shirt, but a chest harness holster that put the XD40 under my left arm pit. Since I'm on the slim side and a smaller framed guy (5'10", 160#), the butt tended to stick out a little no matter what I did. I suspect a holster shirt would also. But larger framed men likely do quite well with it, I suppose.
However, I do not find the smartcarry all that uncomfy...shifted to the left (like Beiruty says) so the end of the butt is even with the zipper it's not in the way of anything important and I can use a urinal just fine. It's just not as comfy or accessible as my IWB.
Beiruty, were you talking about drawing the gun through your zipper?

Must be a small gun.

Re: CHL holder killed by police in Las Vegas at a Costco
Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 7:08 pm
by Beiruty
austin-tatious wrote:mctowalot wrote:
Beiruty, were you talking about drawing the gun through your zipper?

Must be a small gun.

PX4 Sub compact. I can draw it from the zipper. If I still remember correctly my wife timed me with my P30 accessing and drawing from the zipper in 3-4 sec till dry fire is executed.
Re: CHL holder killed by police in Las Vegas at a Costco
Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 5:03 pm
by baldeagle
Interesting
op-ed in the Las Vegas Review Journal yesterday. It seems more and more people are questioning LVMPD policies and procedures after multiple deaths.
Re: CHL holder killed by police in Las Vegas at a Costco
Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 5:17 pm
by Oldgringo
baldeagle wrote:Interesting
op-ed in the Las Vegas Review Journal yesterday. It seems more and more people are questioning LVMPD policies and procedures after multiple deaths.
Hmmm? Given the vast tourism traffic to and from Las Vegas relative to the static population, the odds of a LEO shooting a tourist whose survivors have to get back home are quite a bit higher than the same LEO shooting a resident whose survivors remain in Vegas to pursue the event. That is assuming that the LEO feels the need to shoot somebody?
Oh well, "...what happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas". I ain't gonna' be happenin' in Vegas.
Re: CHL holder killed by police in Las Vegas at a Costco
Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 10:56 pm
by tallmike
A scheduled coroner's inquest has been delayed indefinitely
That doesnt sound good, but I have never dealt with a coroners inquest before. Can anyone tell me if that is out of the ordinary? Good? Bad?
Re: CHL holder killed by police in Las Vegas at a Costco
Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 12:46 am
by seniorshooteress
I am anxiously awaiting the release of 911 tapes & being able to know what was on the survilance video. With the inquest being put off til who knows when, the real truth may never be available for the public. Clearly something needs to shake up the LVPD.
Re: CHL holder killed by police in Las Vegas at a Costco
Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 6:09 am
by TXlaw1
seniorshooteress wrote:I am anxiously awaiting the release of 911 tapes & being able to know what was on the survilance video. With the inquest being put off til who knows when, the real truth may never be available for the public. Clearly something needs to shake up the LVPD.

Like fish, the longer it sits the stinkier it gets. This is smelling bad! I won't be going to Las Vegas.
Re: CHL holder killed by police in Las Vegas at a Costco
Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 4:07 pm
by 03Lightningrocks
TXlaw1 wrote:seniorshooteress wrote:I am anxiously awaiting the release of 911 tapes & being able to know what was on the survilance video. With the inquest being put off til who knows when, the real truth may never be available for the public. Clearly something needs to shake up the LVPD.

Like fish, the longer it sits the stinkier it gets. This is smelling bad! I won't be going to Las Vegas.
Based on the avatar you have chosen, I was thinking you probably wouldn't be going to Vegas anyway.

Re: CHL holder killed by police in Las Vegas at a Costco
Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 12:12 am
by philip964
Latest news report with Erik Scott's attorney.
http://www.8newsnow.com/Global/category ... start=true" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
He asks for any witnesses to come forward who saw Erik Scott acting unusual at the Costco. At this point he hasn't been able to interview anyone who saw Erik acting unusual.
He also wants to know where all the merchandise is that Erik supposedly destroyed as no one has been able to produce it to this point.
He mainly wants the video of the shooting.
He repeats the statement that Erik was shot five time in the back while he was face down on the pavement. He said that the first shot put him on his knees, and the second put him on the ground. I must assume this information is from his interview with Erik's girlfriend.
It was his first time at Costco, he had only paid for his membership card that morning.
Re: CHL holder killed by police in Las Vegas at a Costco
Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 10:33 am
by Fangs
I still can't think about this whole fiasco without that emptiness in my gut feeling.

Re: CHL holder killed by police in Las Vegas at a Costco
Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 1:52 pm
by Dutch
philip964 wrote:Latest news report with Erik Scott's attorney.
It was his first time at Costco, he had only paid for his membership card that morning.
If that's true did he buy something and leave later to come back with the return or is the return story bull?
Re: CHL holder killed by police in Las Vegas at a Costco
Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 2:53 pm
by seniorshooteress
Candle light vigil for Erik Scott August 10th outside the Costco store. Hopefully lots of news media will be there and talk with people.