Personally, I would want more training before entering the classroom with my weapon. However, I would require that this be done discreetly and that my status and infomation be kept confidential.Liberty wrote:I am concerened about the talk of special licenses in general. Those with a CHL shuld be allowed to pack. No one should need to be made aware of who is packing and who isn't. It could be a bad career move if it is known that a particular teacher is packing. A special permit would make anonymous discrete packing more difficult.
Should teachers be allowed to pack a gun?
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more training is good, Making it a requirement would be bad. It would become to easy for a teacher to be known as the teacher with a gun.Venus Pax wrote:Personally, I would want more training before entering the classroom with my weapon. However, I would require that this be done discreetly and that my status and infomation be kept confidential.Liberty wrote:I am concerened about the talk of special licenses in general. Those with a CHL shuld be allowed to pack. No one should need to be made aware of who is packing and who isn't. It could be a bad career move if it is known that a particular teacher is packing. A special permit would make anonymous discrete packing more difficult.
while I believe that extra training would be a good thing, I also feel very strongly that if those who possess CHLs (including students) were allowed to carry our schools would be safer than they are now. Even if none had recieved the extra training.
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That isn't the case for the secondary folk. Most of my students are my size or larger.KD5NRH wrote:That just makes it easier to keep misses and overpenetration safely over their heads.phddan wrote:No, no, no, NO to special license'. A school is no different that the mall or 7-11.
Although it does have a lot of shorter people running around.
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Re: Should teachers be allowed to pack a gun?
I don't mean to resurrect a Topic that's gone quiet for a couple of months, but this seems like the best place to post this note.
Some of you may already know that the FBI has been working on a five-year study dealing with school violence. Unfortunately, the years investigated were 2000 through 2004, so it's a little dated. But the complete report was issued October 2007, and I believe it just went online for public viewing this month.
http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/schoolviolence/2007/index.html
The report is titled, "Crime in Schools and Colleges: A Study of Offenders and Arrestees Reported via National Incident-Based Reporting System Data."
The NIBRS data for the five-year period contained an impressive 17 million reported incidents. Of those, 3.3 percent occurred at schools. There are some interesting statistics in this study. For example, what are called "personal weapons"--meaning hands, fists, feet, etc.--were 3.4 times more likely to have been reported than any other weapon type (exculding the categories for None and Unknown). Knives or cutting instruments were 3.2 times more likely to be used than guns. Handguns were reported, overall, in 1.35% of the incidents; "other firearm" in 0.39%; and rifles and shotguns combined for 0.17%. Reported offenders of crime in schools were most likely to be 13- to 15-year-old white males who the victims knew, with 16- to 18-year-olds running a close second.
Thought this might be an interesting read for y'all.
Some of you may already know that the FBI has been working on a five-year study dealing with school violence. Unfortunately, the years investigated were 2000 through 2004, so it's a little dated. But the complete report was issued October 2007, and I believe it just went online for public viewing this month.
http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/schoolviolence/2007/index.html
The report is titled, "Crime in Schools and Colleges: A Study of Offenders and Arrestees Reported via National Incident-Based Reporting System Data."
The NIBRS data for the five-year period contained an impressive 17 million reported incidents. Of those, 3.3 percent occurred at schools. There are some interesting statistics in this study. For example, what are called "personal weapons"--meaning hands, fists, feet, etc.--were 3.4 times more likely to have been reported than any other weapon type (exculding the categories for None and Unknown). Knives or cutting instruments were 3.2 times more likely to be used than guns. Handguns were reported, overall, in 1.35% of the incidents; "other firearm" in 0.39%; and rifles and shotguns combined for 0.17%. Reported offenders of crime in schools were most likely to be 13- to 15-year-old white males who the victims knew, with 16- to 18-year-olds running a close second.
Thought this might be an interesting read for y'all.
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Re: Should teachers be allowed to pack a gun?
Thanks, Skiprr.
I read recently that she lost the case. Sad.
I read recently that she lost the case. Sad.
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Re: Should teachers be allowed to pack a gun?
I feel teachers should be allowed to protect our kds we have entrusted to them,in most situations teachers will lock their classrooms down creating a defensive position,If they focused more on training teachers wllling to carry ,teach them how to defend a classroom,the bad guys would stay away from schools, too big a chance they might get killed there.And usually by the time LEO shows up,the shooting would be over.I'm gonna put money on the guy that ain't just blasting away with no regard for where his shots are going and is aiming at one specific armed individual,and is wearing an if you can read this don't shoot i'm the good guy t-shirt is gonna be the good guy.I guess it would be easier to pick a bad guy out around a pile a bloody lifeless corpses,versus having to order everybody to drop your weapons and see who aims at you before determining RuhRoh bad guy and by the way you should be behind good cover prior to doing this.
It is said that if you line up all the cars in the world end-to-end, someone would be stupid enough to try to pass them