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Chip wrote:

pdubyoo wrote:I don't remember there being any concern with Reagan, Bush or Clinton, from either side of the aisle, that there would be an attempt to use the forum to advance political agendas

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opini ... 94347.html

when President George H.W. Bush delivered a similar speech on October 1, 1991, from Alice Deal Junior High School in Washington DC, the controversy was just beginning. Democrats, then the majority party in Congress, not only denounced Bush's speech -- they also ordered the General Accounting Office to investigate its production and later summoned top Bush administration officials to Capitol Hill for an extensive hearing on the issue.

Unlike the Obama speech, in 1991 most of the controversy came after, not before, the president's school appearance. The day after Bush spoke, the Washington Post published a front-page story suggesting the speech was carefully staged for the president's political benefit. "The White House turned a Northwest Washington junior high classroom into a television studio and its students into props," the Post reported.

As I stated, I don't remember any concern about Reagan, Bush or Clinton, but you have clearly stated your case to the contrary. I think I was probably too young then to really care too much about politics that much.

So, if there was an outcry then from Bush opponents, why is the left crying foul now when the conservatives are questioning Obama's motives? Sounds like another case of rediculous political posturing. Politicians are such hypocrits!

pdubyoo wrote:I think I was probably too young then to really care too much about politics that much.

So was I. I ran across that link on Drudge earlier today and your post reminded me of it. I wish I could claim credit for thinking of it without Mr. Drudge's help!

Purplehood wrote:I realize that lots of folks don't like the President. But knee-jerk reactions by folks that don't like him simply teach our kids to be totally intolerant and not listen to other peoples points of view. I too don't trust the guy, but I really really try to avoid jumping to conclusions. Let your kids watch the speech. Discuss the good points of it with your kids. If there are any bad, discuss those too. Be adult. Doesn't mean you have to vote for him.

There are enough reasons for most of us too really dislike, perhaps even hate this guy. But letting ourselves get worked up into a frenzy over what he might say is a little much. After all as parents we get the last word. Even a Kennedy sometimes has words of wisdom as mu sig fie quote states..

We let him have his say then we crucify him, at least thats how it is supposed to work.

Liberty wrote:

Purplehood wrote:I realize that lots of folks don't like the President. But knee-jerk reactions by folks that don't like him simply teach our kids to be totally intolerant and not listen to other peoples points of view. I too don't trust the guy, but I really really try to avoid jumping to conclusions. Let your kids watch the speech. Discuss the good points of it with your kids. If there are any bad, discuss those too. Be adult. Doesn't mean you have to vote for him.

There are enough reasons for most of us too really dislike, perhaps even hate this guy. But letting ourselves get worked up into a frenzy over what he might say is a little much. After all as parents we get the last word. Even a Kennedy sometimes has words of wisdom as mu sig fie quote states..

We let him have his say then we crucify him, at least thats how it is supposed to work.

So do any of you feel the Washington Post will blast this speech like they did George Bush 1 when he gave almost the exact same speech? Does anyone think the democrats will call for congressional hearings over Oduma's speech the way they did George Bush 1?

03Lightningrocks wrote:

Liberty wrote:

Purplehood wrote:I realize that lots of folks don't like the President. But knee-jerk reactions by folks that don't like him simply teach our kids to be totally intolerant and not listen to other peoples points of view. I too don't trust the guy, but I really really try to avoid jumping to conclusions. Let your kids watch the speech. Discuss the good points of it with your kids. If there are any bad, discuss those too. Be adult. Doesn't mean you have to vote for him.

There are enough reasons for most of us too really dislike, perhaps even hate this guy. But letting ourselves get worked up into a frenzy over what he might say is a little much. After all as parents we get the last word. Even a Kennedy sometimes has words of wisdom as mu sig fie quote states..

We let him have his say then we crucify him, at least thats how it is supposed to work.

So do any of you feel the Washington Post will blast this speech like they did George Bush 1 when he gave almost the exact same speech? Does anyone think the democrats will call for congressional hearings over Oduma's speech the way they did George Bush 1?

Of course not. The pendulum swings both ways in American politics. The farther it swings one way, the farther in the opposite direction it swings on the next go-round. After all, we all know what payback is...

Ok,

I have never said I hate the guy...I have the most diametrically opposed views to "his" and his supporters agenda that would take years to itemize...Yet that is not what is happening here...

Remember the old addage about letting the camel get its nose under the tent flap??? Thats what we have here...

There are laws that structure the addressing of school kids by government officials...It is that path that was violated...But that is actually beside the point as well...

So, what we have here is the fact that this speech was yet another engineered approach to getting the nose under the tent flap and make the emotional protestors look like a bunch of goobs...

That speech was well delivered, he did not sway very far from it for the most part...But it was about as centrist and right leaning as they could get away with and everyone bought it hook, line and sinker...

The point is he didn't believe a single word of it...How can he???

Everywhere else he goes around speaking about how Americans needs to have their hands held at all times by the government, and this guy wants to expand on that in spades...But here he thinks this is where the future is??? Well sure, thats a bigtime duh,if I ever heard one...Most of those kids have been so indoctrinated already with all the distractions thrown at them by liberal/statist school boards and media/entertainment outlets...So sure in a few years they will be reminded of the time that the President of the United States came to talk directly to them to motivate and inspire them to set goals and achieve them thru hard work...That will be done to setup the elections in 2012...Who the heck has not done so on both sides of the political spectrum???

But hey, like I said, I don't have a single point of agreement with him and his ilk politically...Some here do, and that ok, why should I try to convert any of them...

It was at the leasst a great conservative leaning speech...It was historic, it was inspiring...

But I am not buying anything beyond the fact that it was a calculated political event to boost their approval numbers to the fact that everything else seems to be destroyed and or threatened with destruction when they even look in its direction...

But hey, if people want this guy and his ilk around and effectively dismantling the foundations of this country, its economy and its core values...Step right up and get your ration of good times...

Just my opinion...

Can you tell me who said this?

"Sadly, the arrival of Obama brought with it a lot of hope, but little change"

Purplehood wrote:Can you tell me who said this?

"Sadly, the arrival of Obama brought with it a lot of hope, but little change"

Edit:

Chavez said he wanted more clarity from the United States on its foreign policy, adding that he was disappointed by recent U.S. dealings in South America, including the installation of military bases in Colombia.

"Sadly, the arrival of Obama brought with it a lot of hope, but little change," he said.

We have a foreign policy?

Yes. It is to no longer be foreign, but one big-happy world village.