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Re: Why do we patronize gun shows?
Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 11:20 pm
by ScottDLS
ricor wrote:I like gun shows, yes it is difficult to have to disarm. I understand why insurance underwriters would request a posting of the appropriate signage. I know we have to go through plenty of back ground checks to carry but I think it's more than that. When I went through my CHL class I saw many law abiding and well intentioned don't truly have the skills and discipline to be responsible in all situations.
My opinion (that's why it's worth 2 cents). If the gun show is in a government owned venue, and many of the big ones in my area (DFW) are...There is no "appropriate signage" for the show operator to post. The insurance company "requirement" to post a "sign" is moot. A 30.06 sign is not enforceable on government owned property. To keep their insurance, the show promoter should just post a "no loaded weapons" sign or some such to demonstrate their intent. I haven't been to one in a few years, but are they frisking people or using metal detectors? If not, I'd just walk in. If they are and and they zip tie my gun, I'll walk to the lavatory, go in a stall, cut the zip tie and re-arm. I'm not going to go pulling out my carry gun to check holster fit or show off or some such nonsense. So if I really want to carry, that's what I'll do. And, no I won't patronize a gun show in a private venue or a gun shop with a legal 30.06 posting. I've visited scores of Texas gun stores and I've never seen one with a 30.06 sign. Are there any?
Re: Why do we patronize gun shows?
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 8:53 pm
by jmra
[/quote]My opinion (that's why it's worth 2 cents). If the gun show is in a government owned venue, and many of the big ones in my area (DFW) are...There is no "appropriate signage" for the show operator to post. The insurance company "requirement" to post a "sign" is moot. A 30.06 sign is not enforceable on government owned property. To keep their insurance, the show promoter should just post a "no loaded weapons" sign or some such to demonstrate their intent. I haven't been to one in a few years, but are they frisking people or using metal detectors? If not, I'd just walk in. If they are and and they zip tie my gun, I'll walk to the lavatory, go in a stall, cut the zip tie and re-arm. I'm not going to go pulling out my carry gun to check holster fit or show off or some such nonsense. So if I really want to carry, that's what I'll do. And, no I won't patronize a gun show in a private venue or a gun shop with a legal 30.06 posting. I've visited scores of Texas gun stores and I've never seen one with a 30.06 sign. Are there any?[/quote]
What gun shows in the DFW area are in government owned venues? Market Hall is privately owned, Amon Carter/Will Rogers is privately owned, Big Town is privately owned, Mesquite Rodeo Convention Center is privately owned. Don't know of any other venues worth attending.
Re: Why do we patronize gun shows?
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 8:59 pm
by jmra
I spoke with a LEO yesterday (who has worked a number of gun shows) regarding posting at shows. He may not know what he is talking about, but he claimed that posting at gun shows was required by law.
Re: Why do we patronize gun shows?
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 9:03 pm
by Mike1951
He is mistaken.
Re: Why do we patronize gun shows?
Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 11:06 am
by wheelgun1958
From what I have gleaned from the 'net, the Will Rogers Center is a public facility. This includes the Amon Carter Exhibit Hall.
http://www.fortworthgov.org/publicevents/wrmc/
Re: Why do we patronize gun shows?
Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 5:01 pm
by HGWC
I'm still curious. The 30.06 only applies to those carrying under the authority of CHL. My question is what exception applies to 46.02 that excludes the no handgun carry ban to those transporting a handgun to or from a venue where guns are sold and traded? We are specifically allowed to carry a handgun on our own property. It has to be legal to purchase that handgun and transport it to our property. There has to be an exception. Is it the hunting, fishing, and sporting exception in 46.15? Is it the traveling exception?
Re: Why do we patronize gun shows?
Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 9:31 pm
by jmra
Looks like you might be right. It appears that Mantra has it listed incorrectly as privately owned. Think I will call the information center and ask.
Re: Why do we patronize gun shows?
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 12:48 am
by fickman
jmra wrote:
Looks like you might be right. It appears that Mantra has it listed incorrectly as privately owned. Think I will call the information center and ask.
Let us know what you find out!
Re: Why do we patronize gun shows?
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 3:31 am
by iratollah
We patronize gun shows because Barnum was right.
Re: Why do we patronize gun shows?
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 5:58 pm
by jmra
fickman wrote:jmra wrote:
Looks like you might be right. It appears that Mantra has it listed incorrectly as privately owned. Think I will call the information center and ask.
Let us know what you find out!
According to the woman who answered the phone, all of the Will Rogers Center buildings are owned by the city.
Re: Why do we patronize gun shows?
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 7:47 pm
by 92f-fan
You could ask yourself why you patronize an indoor shooting range
Most are posted to prevent loaded carry in the store
Re: Why do we patronize gun shows?
Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2009 3:42 pm
by roberts
92f-fan wrote:You could ask yourself why you patronize an indoor shooting range
Most are posted to prevent loaded carry in the store
Never seen one myself at a gun range but if I did I would take my gun and my money somewhere pro gun. Just like any other business. They're free to post and I'm free to spend money somewhere else, especially during a recession.
