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Re: US-75 stop for "speeding"
Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 3:43 pm
by gigag04
CompVest wrote:gigag04 wrote:Cops starting making more and gov't programs got more expensive.
I guarnantee you that I do not pay for my salary with the tickets I write. In my city I'm too busy from keeping married couples from fighting and showing people how to raise their kids. We have have a traffic unit that writes alot - but they don't have "quotas." They work areas with lots of wrecks or complaints trying to get people to change their behavior. They also investigate fatality accidents and other major traffic issues.
I don't want to live in your city!
:)
Unfortunately this is par for the course in LE..Like all areas we have "better" areas where these things are less of an issue. If you have an opportunity to ride with your local agency you'd see much of the same I'd expect. It still blows my mind that people call the cops because their kid won't listen.
Re: US-75 stop for "speeding"
Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 7:54 pm
by TLE2
I agree the speed limits should be raised... then I can catch up with most of the traffic in Houston!
Re: US-75 stop for "speeding"
Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 8:27 pm
by randomoutburst
gigag04 wrote:
Unfortunately this is par for the course in LE..Like all areas we have "better" areas where these things are less of an issue. If you have an opportunity to ride with your local agency you'd see much of the same I'd expect. It still blows my mind that people call the cops because their kid won't listen.
My mom had to call the police because my brother (at the time he was 15) was so irate and out-of-control that we both felt we were in danger. It's ridiculous. It shouldn't be your business but some people need that authority present to calm them down.

Re: US-75 stop for "speeding"
Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 11:00 am
by LarryH
TLE2 wrote:I agree the speed limits should be raised... then I can catch up with most of the traffic in Houston!
No -- they'd just drive even faster. (I used to be one of them)
Re: US-75 stop for "speeding"
Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 4:13 pm
by gigag04
randomoutburst wrote:gigag04 wrote:
Unfortunately this is par for the course in LE..Like all areas we have "better" areas where these things are less of an issue. If you have an opportunity to ride with your local agency you'd see much of the same I'd expect. It still blows my mind that people call the cops because their kid won't listen.
My mom had to call the police because my brother (at the time he was 15) was so irate and out-of-control that we both felt we were in danger. It's ridiculous. It shouldn't be your business but some people need that authority present to calm them down.

Boot him out of the house IMO.
Re: US-75 stop for "speeding"
Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 5:05 pm
by randomoutburst
gigag04 wrote:randomoutburst wrote:gigag04 wrote:
Unfortunately this is par for the course in LE..Like all areas we have "better" areas where these things are less of an issue. If you have an opportunity to ride with your local agency you'd see much of the same I'd expect. It still blows my mind that people call the cops because their kid won't listen.
My mom had to call the police because my brother (at the time he was 15) was so irate and out-of-control that we both felt we were in danger. It's ridiculous. It shouldn't be your business but some people need that authority present to calm them down.

Boot him out of the house IMO.
He was eventually. Lives with my dad now.
Re: US-75 stop for "speeding"
Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 5:10 pm
by Oldgringo
randomoutburst wrote:
My mom had to call the police because my brother (at the time he was 15) was so irate and out-of-control that we both felt we were in danger. It's ridiculous. It shouldn't be your business but some people need that authority present to calm them down.

Another off-topic hypothetical question and this one is a doozy:
Young lady, you are looking forward to obtaining your CHL shortly and with good cause. Let's assume, for the moment, that you had your CHL and was armed when the above incident with your brother caused both you and your mother to feel threatened and in danger. Would you have blasted him?
Think about your answer before replying.
Re: US-75 stop for "speeding"
Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 6:43 pm
by randomoutburst
My husband posed this question to me as well, and to himself since he was about to get his CHL at the time. My husband could, if necessary, subdue my brother without weapons just because of the fact he is twice as large and much stronger. For my hubby it was a no-brainer. If my brother wasn't armed, he'd use his hands to get him under control and only use his weapon as a last resort. I don't have that luxury as I was (and still am) smaller and weaker than my brother.
I thought about my initial reaction when my husband posed this question to me, and my thoughts remain the same. If it was the exact same situation, and I had had my CHL...well, I plan on having pepper gel on me as a non-lethal option. Also, my brother would not (and will not) know I have my CHL. My brother had no weapon and only his strength as an advantage. He didn't take action to stop my mother from calling the police.
I would have drawn pepper spray and warned him to stay away from me. If he advanced I would have sprayed him. Because I know my brother and that he's really a big wuss with pain, I expect that the spray alone would be enough to keep him down until the police got there. Police response time in Frisco has always been 5-10 minutes at the very most from my experience. (We called several times for other reasons, like my dad...)
I cannot see him advancing further after being sprayed, but if he chose to continue to advance towards me I would draw. I cannot tell you if I would shoot or not. I know that I would prefer to remove myself from the situation altogether but also had to worry about my mother, who is physically weak from MS and wouldn't be able to defend herself if I left her alone with him. I could see myself attempting to shoot at an appendage to impress upon him that I'm serious, but I do not know if I could shoot him in the chest as I am prepared to do to a stranger. I know that's not a good option, but I don't know if I could shoot a family member.
Things are different if you're shooting at someone you know as opposed to an unknown attacker. I'll be the first (haha!) to say that women are different from men. They are connectivists, so relationships are important. Even if everything is logically SCREAMING to act, women are often held back by their feelings. I'm not wholly caught up in the connectivist viewpoints like some, who might go, "Oh, but if I shoot my attacker then his mom has lost a son!" or "What about the attacker's life? He might have a family!"
Oh, no. An attacker is an attacker and if he was your son or father, I'm sorry, but when push comes to shove I care more about my rear than his. Still, when it comes to my family, I could see taking action as a CHL holder being a problem simply because there's a relationship there.
Re: US-75 stop for "speeding"
Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 10:07 pm
by Oldgringo
randomoutburst wrote:
An attacker is an attacker and if he was your son or father, I'm sorry, but when push comes to shove I care more about my rear than his. Still, when it comes to my family, I could see taking action as a CHL holder being a problem simply because there's a relationship there.
Randomoutburst

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That's as good an answer as there is.
None of us know what we'll do until it's time to do it. Hopefully, prayerfully, we'll never have to make the decision to shoot someone - as bad as that someone may need shooting. ITMT, we must be vigilant and we must be prepared to make that life changing decision if need be.
Good luck and God Bless.
Re: US-75 stop for "speeding"
Posted: Fri May 28, 2010 9:45 am
by bdickens
I have enough to do while driving just minding my own business.
Re: US-75 stop for "speeding"
Posted: Fri May 28, 2010 11:29 am
by CompVest
Keep to the topic, please.
Re: US-75 stop for "speeding"
Posted: Sat May 29, 2010 10:00 pm
by Deltaboy
I still flash because we have a town that had the Ranger visit them over their Traffic enforcment.

Re: US-75 stop for "speeding"
Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 4:09 pm
by dihappy
gigag04 wrote:fickman wrote:Some just miss a sign, have something important on the mind, are tired, dealing with distractions (kids, glare, whatever).
Driver inattention frequently contributes to accidents or increases the severity of an accident.
A perfect reason to warn them.
Re: US-75 stop for "speeding"
Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 5:16 pm
by .45mac.40
by USA1 ยป 23 May 2010, 19:14
I didn't know people still did the light flash thing.
I remember my parents doing that in the 70's and even 80's but I figured with
most cars having daytime running lights nowadays, the "smokey" warning was obsolete by now.
BTW, we also used a CB to give and listen for "smokey" warnings.
Ahh, it was a simpler time then.
BREAK ... BREAK .... ONE NINE !
I used to way back when ...
Don't any more ... who's gonna see ya' ? ... they're texting !
I refuse to pay for any vehicle violations.... better to use my funds for guns and ammo !

Just saying !
Mac
Re: I-75 stop for "speeding"
Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 10:48 pm
by TXJK
Tamie wrote:Oldgringo wrote:Somebody help me...
Stay in the right lane. That will help everyone.
And, it really isn't a difficult concept. It's called courtesy.
If I'm tailgating you in the right lane, I'm the . If I'm tailgating you in the fast lane, you're the . Move over.