03Lightningrocks wrote:

Pot stirrer!
68Charger wrote:I personally don't like Glocks for their design. Perhaps if they had a diff design with the same mechanical functionality, then that would be awesome. However the design makes a glock a glock. I also don't like their fanboys either. Dealing with them is like dealing with a Apple fanboy. Don't get me started there.. (E.G.
link to youtube video which I will not ... .... (TAM) )
WARNING: THAT LINK DOES NOT MEET THE 10 YEAR OLD DAUGHTER RULE!!
That said, that there is pretty darn funny.
Hmmmm.... Glocks.....
I guess I'm a little bit of a 1911 fanboy, but not so much that I can't appreciate various other platforms. My carry rotation includes 2 different 1911s (we have 5 in the family), an M&P 45, and a pocket revolver. Additionally, one of my wife's two carry pistols is a Glock 19.
My first ever gun was my dad's old 1943 vintage Ithaca 1911-A1 which was his Marine Corps sidearm in WW2, and I inherited it when he died 20 years ago. I was 37 years old at the time, and until then, the only firearm I had ever shot was a friend's .22 caliber rifle when I was about 18. In short, I was not a gun guy. But, I formed an attachment to that old 1911 because it was my dad's gun. And when I inherited it, I had a couple of friends who were both NCOs in the California Nat'l Guard take me out to a range and teach me to shoot it, and how to field strip and clean it. I had a blast with that pistol, and that day is directly responsible for my being a member of this board today. So you might say that, when it comes to guns, the 1911 platform was mother's milk to me. You can hardly blame me for loving 1911s.
Now, I love to banter with fans of other platforms, just like when I used to roadrace motorcycles. The Honda/Kawasaki/Yamaha guys were the Glock/M&P/XD fans, and the Ducati guys were like the 1911 snobs. Back then (the 1980s), Ducati wasn't having much racing success, either at the national or the international levels. They were getting regularly whipped by the Japanese marques, but the Ducati was the brand that everybody thought in their heart of hearts, "someday, I'm going to get me one of those." They were good bikes, but they weren't faster, and they didn't necessarily handle better — but, they were works of art with all the appeal of handmade Italian designs. The greatest compliment they could receive at the time was this: after about 10 years of regularly getting the snot beat out of them, Ducati started producing winners -
consistent winners - and both Honda and Suzuki reactedby
imitating Ducati and producing large displacement racing V-twins of their own.
So, originally (not counting WW2 wartime production), Colt and a few smaller "custom" manufacturers made 1911 pattern pistols. Let's see who has jumped on the bandwagon since.... Taurus, S&W, Kimber, Springfield Armory, ARMSCOR (and all its iterations), Dan Wesson, Remington (about to get back in the game), Para-Ordinance, Sig-Sauer, etc., etc.
Why is that? In my opinion, it is because imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. That, and ol' JMB isn't around anymore to sue the pants off of you for imitating his design or daring to make a trigger with the same basic idea as his.
All of that said, the Glock is a great design. It deserves it's place in history. My wife enjoys shooting her's and she carries it with confidence, and that is more important to me than anyone else's opinion on this forum. I like to shoot it OK. It's not my favorite gun in the safe (that is reserved for one of my 1911s), but it is a very good gun. When people ask me what kind of gun to buy, Glock is one of the brands/platforms I recommend. When I take new shooters to the range for their first time, as they work their way up the caliber scale, my wife's G19 is one of the guns I give them to shoot. At least
one of the women I taught to shoot in the past 12 months has expressed a desire to buy a G19 for themselves by the time the day was over. They enjoyed the 1911s, but they felt most at ease with the simplicity of the Glock. I suspect that the gun's simplicity is less "intimidating" to people who are not really gun people, and who aren't actually that interested in design or appearance. They just want a gun that will go "bang" every time, and that is simple to operate. They don't want to learn the "gun kata" that goes with owning or shooting a 1911 pistol.
For my own part, the G19's grip is about the biggest in a Glock that I can stand. I'm also partial to the .45 ACP caliber, and the G21 is a monster gun. Waaaaaay to big for my hands; and ditto the G30. And you could land an airplane on the top of both the G21 and G30 slides. And with the G36, the slide is wider than my Kimber Ultra's, it carries one less round, and now that the single stack G36 grip circumference fits my hand, it's too darn short and I still can't get a grip on it!
So, I filled that hole in my lineup by buying an M&P 45. Yes, it holds "only" 10+1 rounds to the G21's 13+1, but it fits my hand beautifully, and one of the compliments I can give it (again, imitation being the sincerest form of flattery) is that the grip angle and location of the controls makes it feel positively 1911-like in the hand. You can't get any better than that.
Now, I admit that I haven't checked out a Gen 4 Glock yet, with their adjustable grips. I'll have to check that out, and heck,
maybe even
buy one {{{gasp shudder!!}}} if it feels right in the hand. And if I did, I would feel confident about adding it to my carry rotation... ....but then, there is still the matter of a slide top of roughly the same dimensions as an Essex-class carrier.... so.....
naaaahhhh!