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The Mad Moderate wrote:just to clear out some of the lies that are currently echoing in the right right noise machine the net neutrally issue is simple it keeps the internet open and stops internet companies from charging you more for a you tube video than they do for checking your Facebook status its not an attempt to control the internet only to stop the corporations from ripping off consumers

You just said that in a short paragraph. You could write it as a law in about a dozen paragraphs, a few pages at most if you were to include definitions and all. What are the other 300 pages of the regulation about?

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The Mad Moderate wrote:just to clear out some of the lies that are currently echoing in the right right noise machine the net neutrally issue is simple it keeps the internet open and stops internet companies from charging you more for a you tube video than they do for checking your Facebook status its not an attempt to control the internet only to stop the corporations from ripping off consumers

You just said that in a short paragraph. You could write it as a law in about a dozen paragraphs, a few pages at most if you were to include definitions and all. What are the other 300 pages of the regulation about?

^^^This

We are going to end up with an "internet access" tax and with a bureaucratic mess on our hands that will take years to fix, if this is allowed to go through.

I don't really know the details on the neutrality deal but like many here have said .........If the government is controlling the situation it's going to cost you and it will be totally unexplainable in short order . They will start next week looking for 25,000 college boys to run it and inventing tax's , fees , laws , requirements , deadlines , computer and equipment requirements .......................................................! It will take them a few years and a lot of your money but you can rest assured it will be the most screwed up and expensive Internet on the planet .

Oh ! I forgot ! Don't we need an internet police ? Attached maybe to NSA , Homeland security , Marshal service , FBI , CIA , etc ? Gonna need more drones.......

AndyC wrote:Call me a skeptic, but I would have preferred to have seen what's actually in it before they passed it.

Nonsense! Everybody knows you have to pass a bill to find out what's in a bill...


(I'm still holding out hope for some restaurant owner telling her that she "has to pay the bill to find out what's on the bill", and then charge like $50k for her sandwich.)

I'm very curious about what is in those 300 pages, but those concerns should be separate of Net Neutrality itself.

Net Neutrality is an example of a government action that is beneficial. It's essentially the 1st Amendment for the internet. It seems like the people who are outright against net neutrality don't understand that. All it does is keep the internet as it is today, instead of it becoming like cable tv with only certain websites available to certain Internet Service Providers. It is exactly the opposite of the situation in China.

Now, what all is in those 300 pages is cause for at least some concern, but net neutrality itself should not be an issue.

What some don't understand is once government gets their hands into something, even if it is initially beneficial, they normally don't stop there. Another thing done don't understand is that bills and rules are given favorable sounding names but actually do the opposite or much more than what the name implies.

What many understand and is concerned about is that "net neutrality" is just the beginning of much more to come. It's probably hidden in those three hundred pages. Some are easily lulled into thinking those in government are there to look out for us.

By the way, the 1st Amendment is to keep the government from suppressing or limiting free speech. It has nothing to do with private companies throttling internet bandwidth.

mojo84 wrote:What many understand and is concerned about is that "net neutrality" is just the beginning of much more to come. It's probably hidden in those three hundred pages.

Yeah, that's what's got me worried... If this was really "Net Neutrality", it'd be 300 words, not 300 pages.

TVegas wrote:I'm very curious about what is in those 300 pages, but those concerns should be separate of Net Neutrality itself.

Net Neutrality is an example of a government action that is beneficial. It's essentially the 1st Amendment for the internet. It seems like the people who are outright against net neutrality don't understand that. All it does is keep the internet as it is today, instead of it becoming like cable tv with only certain websites available to certain Internet Service Providers. It is exactly the opposite of the situation in China.

Now, what all is in those 300 pages is cause for at least some concern, but net neutrality itself should not be an issue.

OK, we'll revisit this thread in a year and see if you still think that.

Net Neutrality is an example of a government action that is beneficial.

Could be, but even if it was I'd worry it's the wrong cure for the problem.

I think it's going to be a nightmare. Why should you become a public utility because you're letting others share an expensive phone line you bought? That's all a digital circuit is - a high capacity, expensive phone line.

I will be watching to see if Google Fiber, Grande Communications, etc. will be held to the same regulatory requirements as the big boys ATT & Verizon. That will determine, in my mind, whether this is truly about "neutrality" or politics (especially since Google was a big supporter of the FCC decision). Just my opinion, based on nearly 40 years in the telecom business.
Dave

If this were a good thing for the people then there wouldn't be any reason not to release the contents before th vote.

jmra wrote:If this were a good thing for the people then there wouldn't be any reason not to release the contents before th vote.

It's because we are too stupid to understand it. Just ask Jonathan Gruber.

If N.N. causes me to much money and/or vexation - no problem for me.

I'll toss my computers in the junk pile and not look back. I can live without the internet.

Phone calls and snail mail worked for years and I can easily go back to it.