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koolaid wrote:For those of you who have said it would make you uncomfortable, do you ever carry in a pocket holster?

Would you be uncomfortable sitting across the table from someone carrying in a pocket holster?

Why or why not?

Good point.

Funny thing is, when I was pocket carrying, I was actually aware of where the muzzle was pointing, and making an effort to keep it pointed NOT at someone else when I was seated. Not easy to accomplish when seated at a table with people around all sides, but I made an effort none-the-less.

LikesShinyThings wrote:

koolaid wrote:For those of you who have said it would make you uncomfortable, do you ever carry in a pocket holster?

Would you be uncomfortable sitting across the table from someone carrying in a pocket holster?

Why or why not?

Good point.

Very good point... I think this hasn't occurred to most people because it's "out of sight, out of mind". Personally, I rarely sit with my legs pointed straight ahead, to if I had a gun in pocket holster and if it "just went off", as much as my pockets are pulled tight when I'm sitting and not holding my legs closed, the bullet would probably hit my leg which is obviously bad, but so much better than hitting someone else anywhere. In fact, assuming I don't get a permanent injury, I think having it hit my leg is the most desirable outcome of an AD/ND in a crowd because I "contain" all (hopefully) the danger, and the crowd just has to worry about the slippery spot where I was sitting.

Hmm... With that in mind, now I'm reconsidering whether I want a .380 or a 9mm for pocket carry...

Dave2 wrote:
Hmm... With that in mind, now I'm reconsidering whether I want a .380 or a 9mm for pocket carry...

Have a holster, keep nothing else in the pocket with it, and you can carry a howitzer. It is not going to just "go off". Most pocket guns have pretty hefty and/or long trigger pulls too. You don't have to worry.

Dave2 wrote:

LikesShinyThings wrote:

koolaid wrote:For those of you who have said it would make you uncomfortable, do you ever carry in a pocket holster?

Would you be uncomfortable sitting across the table from someone carrying in a pocket holster?

Why or why not?

Good point.

Very good point... I think this hasn't occurred to most people because it's "out of sight, out of mind". Personally, I rarely sit with my legs pointed straight ahead, to if I had a gun in pocket holster and if it "just went off", as much as my pockets are pulled tight when I'm sitting and not holding my legs closed, the bullet would probably hit my leg which is obviously bad, but so much better than hitting someone else anywhere. In fact, assuming I don't get a permanent injury, I think having it hit my leg is the most desirable outcome of an AD/ND in a crowd because I "contain" all (hopefully) the danger, and the crowd just has to worry about the slippery spot where I was sitting.

Hmm... With that in mind, now I'm reconsidering whether I want a .380 or a 9mm for pocket carry...

Guns carried in pocket holsters don't "go off" by themselves.

Guns carried loose in pockets with other items discharge when their bang switch is depressed by contact with one of those items, or when the wearer sticks his hand in the pocket and finds the gun in a different position than what he expected.

If you're planning to carry a gun in a way that you think is likely to result in an ND that you want to stay in your body, it would be best to choose the smallest, wimpiest cartridge you can find. The .25ACP comes to mind. It won't help you defend yourself, but will reduce your injuries when you shoot yourself.

Then again, you could avoid all that pain and ruckus entirely by not carrying a gun at all.

Excaliber wrote:Guns carried in pocket holsters don't "go off" by themselves.

Remove the word "pocket" and you have exactly my point.

koolaid wrote:

Excaliber wrote:Guns carried in pocket holsters don't "go off" by themselves.

Remove the word "pocket" and you have exactly my point.

That is also true, provided it is a quality holster that covers the trigger guard completely.

All this kinda makes me wonder how many times a CHLer is doing a horinzonal shoulder rig carry under thier coat or jacket and you don't even know about it and its pointing at you the whole time thier near you, grocery line comes to mind first!

firediver wrote:All this kinda makes me wonder how many times a CHLer is doing a horinzonal shoulder rig carry under thier coat or jacket and you don't even know about it and its pointing at you the whole time thier near you, grocery line comes to mind first!

I don't understand the concern people have about this. Sure, if you see a gun pointed at you, it's un-nerving. That's natural, but a holstered gun is no more dangerous than a tube of chapstick.
I carry my guns (usually a Glock 19 or 32) at about 1:30, and when I'm sitting down, it's pointed straight at my femoral artery. Should I be concerned? (rhetorical question)

Scott in Houston wrote:

firediver wrote:All this kinda makes me wonder how many times a CHLer is doing a horinzonal shoulder rig carry under thier coat or jacket and you don't even know about it and its pointing at you the whole time thier near you, grocery line comes to mind first!

I don't understand the concern people have about this. Sure, if you see a gun pointed at you, it's un-nerving. That's natural, but a holstered gun is no more dangerous than a tube of chapstick.
I carry my guns (usually a Glock 19 or 32) at about 1:30, and when I'm sitting down, it's pointed straight at my femoral artery. Should I be concerned? (rhetorical question)

Generally, I agree with you. But just like brakes can fail on a car, or a fire starting in a car just sitting (not started) in a driveway, I have to allow for Murphy, and therefore I won't say "ain't never gonna happen unless the booger hook is on the bang switch" relative to a gun going off. I know the chance of discharge without finger on trigger is exceedingly small, but I still cannot say with finality that it will never happen. What if somehow the gun were to get partially dislodged from a nominally deformed holster. Then it subsequently gets shoved back into place except the deformity catches the trigger and bang goes the gun? Exceedingly small chance of it happening, but people get hit by lightning, too. Just sayin'

LikesShinyThings wrote: Generally, I agree with you. But just like brakes can fail on a car, or a fire starting in a car just sitting (not started) in a driveway, I have to allow for Murphy, and therefore I won't say "ain't never gonna happen unless the booger hook is on the bang switch" relative to a gun going off. I know the chance of discharge without finger on trigger is exceedingly small, but I still cannot say with finality that it will never happen. What if somehow the gun were to get partially dislodged from a nominally deformed holster. Then it subsequently gets shoved back into place except the deformity catches the trigger and bang goes the gun? Exceedingly small chance of it happening, but people get hit by lightning, too. Just sayin'

Sure they do. But normally nobody worries about getting struck by lightning when they are inside, which is a more apt comparison.

koolaid wrote:

LikesShinyThings wrote: Generally, I agree with you. But just like brakes can fail on a car, or a fire starting in a car just sitting (not started) in a driveway, I have to allow for Murphy, and therefore I won't say "ain't never gonna happen unless the booger hook is on the bang switch" relative to a gun going off. I know the chance of discharge without finger on trigger is exceedingly small, but I still cannot say with finality that it will never happen. What if somehow the gun were to get partially dislodged from a nominally deformed holster. Then it subsequently gets shoved back into place except the deformity catches the trigger and bang goes the gun? Exceedingly small chance of it happening, but people get hit by lightning, too. Just sayin'

Sure they do. But normally nobody worries about getting struck by lightning when they are inside, which is a more apt comparison.

Yup. And that has happened, too.

Well it is obvious to me that many of you have not been listening to the media-confirmed wisdom of the Brady Bunch anti-firearm knowledge. Firearms always go off by themselves, especially if an innocent person is in the line of fire. There is no safe firearm. Why are you even carrying something which is so unpredictably dangerous?

I give up. I was wrong. Further, I am way too paranoid. AND....it seems, NOW I think like a liberal?????

I'm going to get up from the computer, pick up my loaded/chambered XDm .40, and hold it at my temple while I watch t.v. the next
few hours.

Maybe tomorrow night/next week/next month too.

AND>>>>>>>>I plan on sleeping with my my loaded 12 GA zombie killer actually IN BED with me, with one in the pipe too....with my wife right next to me.
(Safety off....OF COURSE!!!!!...we all know they don't go off by themselves.......)

I'll host a sleepover for similar activities for the like-minded if I get enough interest!

Sorry for being so silly guys, I realize now I should have never have even flinched at the business end of that pistol pointing
at my noggin. AND, I further apologize for wasting everyone's time posting about it.

Someday, I'll grow up and be big, strong, and smart like everyone else. Until then, keep edumacating me, please?

Chucky

These sarcastic tongue in cheek posts are on the rise.

Hope this isn't becoming the new norm.

gigag04 wrote:These sarcastic tongue in cheek posts are on the rise.

Hope this isn't becoming the new norm.

Gig, I respect you. A lot. I like reading your posts, because I really think you're one of the good guys.

But, as someone that's been around firearms since I was a baby, I just have a hard time being made fun or second guessed...OR....accused of somehow thinking like an "anti" because I didn't like a pistol pointing at me.

I guess i never should have posted in the first place. I was simply sharing my concerns.