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Re: COSTCO Gun Policy

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 7:15 pm
by emcee rib
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Re: COSTCO Gun Policy

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:52 am
by gdanaher
Last night I spent more time than I should, reading the customer rules and policies. Not a word there about concealed or open carry. Read the whole thing and followed it by a text search. There policy must be buried deep.

Re: COSTCO Gun Policy

Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 6:06 am
by Bullwhip
gdanaher wrote:Last night I spent more time than I should, reading the customer rules and policies. Not a word there about concealed or open carry. Read the whole thing and followed it by a text search. There policy must be buried deep.
So deep they can't show it to you, just tell you they know its there.

No costco store handy to me, just as well, I won't' shop there after the las vegas thing anyway. I don't' buy that they din't have video.

Re: COSTCO Gun Policy

Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 7:54 am
by Keith B
One thing to consider is the site this is posted on appears to be different from their main site. It looks to me to possibly be a contracted 'customer service' company that handles their inquiries, etc. There is the chance this was written by someone that it is their view and not that of the overall company. However, I would think that a question like this should have been taken to a legal Representative of Costco for their official answer, or at least ran by them for approval before posting the answer. No matter who it came from, they are speaking for the company, so that now IMO reflects the mindset of the business and while I don't have a Costco card, I for sure now will never get one.

Re: COSTCO Gun Policy

Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 8:45 am
by RottenApple
Keith B wrote:One thing to consider is the site this is posted on appears to be different from their main site. It looks to me to possibly be a contracted 'customer service' company that handles their inquiries, etc. There is the chance this was written by someone that it is their view and not that of the overall company. However, I would think that a question like this should have been taken to a legal Representative of Costco for their official answer, or at least ran by them for approval before posting the answer. No matter who it came from, they are speaking for the company, so that now IMO reflects the mindset of the business and while I don't have a Costco card, I for sure now will never get one.
Except that I can't find a link to that site anywhere from the member's section of Costco's website. I've hunted everywhere for it and it's just not there. As near as I can tell, there is NO firearms policy (pro or anti) in any of the Membership Terms & Conditions.

As for that website, what makes you think it's legitimate? The fact that "costco" was in the URL? I can create a website and put "keithb" in the URL but that doesn't mean it's yours. http://keithb.whatever.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I also did a Whois lookup on that site:
Registrant:
eGain Communications Corp
1252 Borregas Ave
Sunnyvale, CA 94089
US

Domain Name: EGAIN.NET

Administrative Contact, Technical Contact:
Shah, Rakesh rshah@egain.com
1252 Borregas Avenue
Sunnyvale, CA 94089
US
408-6364461 fax: 408-6364400
Unfortunately that doesn't prove or disprove a legitimate Costco connection. eGain Comm. Corp's main website is http://www.egain.com/. It does appear that they provide KB services, but Costco isn't listed on their customer page and, I keep going back to this, there is no link (that I can find) from Costco's website to this one.

At this point, after searching Costco's website and reading through their Terms & Conditions, I'm calling bull on the Costco "no guns" policy until and unless someone can show me otherwise.

Re: COSTCO Gun Policy

Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 8:51 am
by WildBill
RottenApple wrote:At this point, after searching Costco's website and reading through their Terms & Conditions, I'm calling bull on the Costco "no guns" policy until and unless someone can show me otherwise.
I also looked and the terms and conditions posted on their website appear to apply to the website, not to the membership. Many businesses don't what you to have time to thoroughly review their contracts before signing them.

Re: COSTCO Gun Policy

Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 9:03 am
by Keith B
RottenApple wrote:Except that I can't find a link to that site anywhere from the member's section of Costco's website. I've hunted everywhere for it and it's just not there. As near as I can tell, there is NO firearms policy (pro or anti) in any of the Membership Terms & Conditions.

As for that website, what makes you think it's legitimate? The fact that "costco" was in the URL? I can create a website and put "keithb" in the URL but that doesn't mean it's yours. http://keithb.whatever.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I also did a Whois lookup on that site:
Registrant:
eGain Communications Corp
1252 Borregas Ave
Sunnyvale, CA 94089
US

Domain Name: EGAIN.NET

Administrative Contact, Technical Contact:
Shah, Rakesh rshah@egain.com
1252 Borregas Avenue
Sunnyvale, CA 94089
US
408-6364461 fax: 408-6364400
Unfortunately that doesn't prove or disprove a legitimate Costco connection. eGain Comm. Corp's main website is http://www.egain.com/. It does appear that they provide KB services, but Costco isn't listed on their customer page and, I keep going back to this, there is no link (that I can find) from Costco's website to this one.

At this point, after searching Costco's website and reading through their Terms & Conditions, I'm calling bull on the Costco "no guns" policy until and unless someone can show me otherwise.
A link to eGain IS on their website. See this page http://shop.costco.com/customer-service/contact-us" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;, then look at the link for Costco Member Questions: Member Questions & Comments

Re: COSTCO Gun Policy

Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 4:31 pm
by MoJoeWrkn
I looked and looked at the link above and cannot find anything about it. Here is there membership info, the last page talks about what membership rules(shirt, shoes required, etc) Says nothing about guns.

http://content.costco.com/Images/Conten ... rvices.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: COSTCO Gun Policy

Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 8:28 pm
by testersbc
just in cas you didn't know. A COSTCO employee got one of veterans killed there because he was carrying a concealed firearm.

Re: COSTCO Gun Policy

Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 8:29 pm
by Oldgringo
I remember a post of yesteryear wherein the UMC was shown to be officially anti gun. Did that stop me from being a Methodist?

Re: COSTCO Gun Policy

Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 8:32 pm
by Keith B
testersbc wrote:just in cas you didn't know. A COSTCO employee got one of veterans killed there because he was carrying a concealed firearm.
Yep, there's currently 58 pages of discussion on the shooting of Erik Scott here http://texaschlforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=36107" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

And I removed your link to the Las Vegas paper. We don't allow links to any Las Vegas media outlets on the forum.

Re: COSTCO Gun Policy

Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 8:40 pm
by Oldgringo
Keith B wrote: We don't allow links to any Las Vegas media outlets on the forum.
I have absolutely no desire to ever go back to Las Vegas; however, I must of missed something that prompted the banning of Las Vegas media outlets?

On second thought, nevermind; I don't care.

Re: COSTCO Gun Policy

Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 8:44 pm
by jocat54
Keith B wrote:
testersbc wrote:just in cas you didn't know. A COSTCO employee got one of veterans killed there because he was carrying a concealed firearm.
Yep, there's currently 58 pages of discussion on the shooting of Erik Scott here http://texaschlforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=36107" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

And I removed your link to the Las Vegas paper. We don't allow links to any Las Vegas media outlets on the forum.

I learned something new, did not know about the Las Vegas ban.

Re: COSTCO Gun Policy

Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:21 pm
by Katygunnut
jocat54 wrote:
Keith B wrote:
testersbc wrote:just in cas you didn't know. A COSTCO employee got one of veterans killed there because he was carrying a concealed firearm.
Yep, there's currently 58 pages of discussion on the shooting of Erik Scott here http://texaschlforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=36107" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

And I removed your link to the Las Vegas paper. We don't allow links to any Las Vegas media outlets on the forum.

I learned something new, did not know about the Las Vegas ban.
Totally off topic, but why ban links to publications in the biggest city in Nevada? Nevada is fairly pro-gun, I thought. If anything, why wouldn't we ban links to media outlets based in Kalifornia, New York, Illinois, or Washington D.C.? Was there something specific about Las Vegas?

Re: COSTCO Gun Policy

Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 11:38 pm
by wgoforth
Keith B wrote:
testersbc wrote:just in cas you didn't know. A COSTCO employee got one of veterans killed there because he was carrying a concealed firearm.
Yep, there's currently 58 pages of discussion on the shooting of Erik Scott here http://texaschlforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=36107" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

And I removed your link to the Las Vegas paper. We don't allow links to any Las Vegas media outlets on the forum.
Sorry, didn't know anything about the ban. What's the story with that??