Gunman Kills 5 in Utah Shopping Mall

Greybeard · Post by **Greybeard** » Sun Feb 18, 2007 4:45 pm

While those who are better versed in Utah law may want to comment, it seems like I read somewhere in the past few days that the ghostbusters signs have no more legitimacy there than in Tejas ...

FWIW, an "update" article: http://www.deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,12 ... 35,00.html

Venus Pax · Post by **Venus Pax** » Sun Feb 18, 2007 5:21 pm

If that's the case, then I stand corrected.

Roger Howard · Post by **Roger Howard** » Sun Feb 18, 2007 7:54 pm

Either way on the technical point, I'm not sure about the specifics of posting in Utah. I do know, as reported by NRA News, That mall was properly posted to ban CCW by permit holders.

srothstein · Post by **srothstein** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 1:44 am

Roger Howard wrote:It's confirmed the mall in question is posted for no CCW just like Katy Mills. A ghostbuster works there. I wonder if any lawsuits against the mall owners will come??

I was also involved in another discussion on this and I am no longer sure the sign has any legal meaning. It was pointed out to me that their whole criminal trespass law has a defense in it for any place that is open to the public and your trespass does not interfere with the normal course of buisness, or something similar. That would mean there is no way to ban a CHL at any business that is open to the public.

Roger Howard · Post by **Roger Howard** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 4:34 am

srothstein wrote:
Roger Howard wrote:It's confirmed the mall in question is posted for no CCW just like Katy Mills. A ghostbuster works there. I wonder if any lawsuits against the mall owners will come??
I was also involved in another discussion on this and I am no longer sure the sign has any legal meaning. It was pointed out to me that their whole criminal trespass law has a defense in it for any place that is open to the public and your trespass does not interfere with the normal course of buisness, or something similar. That would mean there is no way to ban a CHL at any business that is open to the public.

I'm not that "up" on Utah law as I don't get there very often anymore. I'm just passing on what was reported by NRA News.

O6nop · Post by **O6nop** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 1:22 pm

I went looking for a similar forum in Utah, but came across this website
http://www.goutahorg.org/
Look in Alerts #265 on Feb 13. This organization looks like they are trying to keep their RKBA afloat and hitting some hard opposition.