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Re: Can you shoot someone in the back that turns there back

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:45 am
by stealthfightrf17
Pastor, one of the thing that was discussed in my CHL class was how we would react in diffrent situations. In the wake of the theater masacre it has got me thinking very deeply about these things again. It is not abnormal for me to process things that happen when I read about them in the news, but some things stir it up deeper. The reallity is, every situation is deffrent and you can never plan 100% for your response. The bigger question that remains in every situation is can I live with myself in the aftermath. On here we often will discuss things, and get diffrent respons on how someone would act. Never have I even seen a hint that people only want shoot, and most would rather want the police to hadel it. In the case of a stollen wallet, I would be very hesitent to give it up easiley. Not because i have any money in it, they would be lucky for $20.00, but my address is in there. I could not sleep at night knowing they have this and my familey is home. My primery purpose for me having my CHL is not to protect me, but to keep my familey safe. When a situation happens, often were are forced to make a decission based of what someone else is doing. One of my biggest prayers is never to have to draw my weapon in self defense, let alone use it. However, If I am forced to make that decision by someone elses choice then it is something that I feel is the only way.

Re: Can you shoot someone in the back that turns there back

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 2:38 pm
by Jim Beaux
buckaroo815 wrote:
Hello Jim. I do like to shoot. I am a member of South East Texas Gun Club in Vidor. I shoot about 1-3 times a month. Maybe we can sometime.

I will look forward to it, but I cant go to the gun range in Vidor; Ive been banned till I cough up more of my personal info than I feel is warranted! :lol:

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Re: Can you shoot someone in the back that turns there back

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 3:17 pm
by The Annoyed Man
rm9792 wrote:
The Annoyed Man wrote:
Keith B wrote:.
. But the loss of whatever was in my wallet would have to be particularly ruinous to me to make me believe that shooting him in the back as he walked away would be worth it. That loss would have to outweigh the almost certain loss to me in legal defense fees, and it is pretty much certain that there is nothing in my wallet that is worth $50K or more......not to mention the possibility of incarceration.
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One thing you keep forgetting in your evaluation of the wallet. It has your address in it. It has your identity in it. What is of value in the wallet is your wifes safety, your kids safety, your homes sanctity, your identity which takes years to recover from and usually well over your $50k limit to get cleared up. Yes, my wallet is of more value to me than a street thug who has no care of his own life. He chooses to take the chance and at some point he will roll craps. My $12 wallet is of great value to me. The implicit value is much much greater than the explicit value contained therein.
No, I did not forget, and I am certain that I previously explained why. I carry my TDL, CHL, Debit Cards, and my business cards in a little folding ID holder which stays in my shirt pocket. My hip pocket wallet does not have anything in it with my identity or address or anything in it.....other than my name on my Costco card. It certainly doesn't contain anything worth killing someone over. Trust me. I do know what is in it. I'm completely happy to use it as a throw down wallet. And, maybe while the BG is stooping over to pick it up, I can kick him in the teeth, or hit him with a chair, or get my own gun deployed, or run, or whatever.

Re: Can you shoot someone in the back that turns there back

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 4:57 pm
by rm9792
I like that plan but I know I would forget one or the other. Sorry if I missed your previous explanation. I do have a throwdown as well with really old cancelled credit cards (not mine), an old TDL of someone who died in the 90s and about $8 in it. I carry that sometimes and leave in the car so I wont forget the real wallet. If I carry the TD wallet then I just stick the real one in front pocket on gun side.

Re: Can you shoot someone in the back that turns there back

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:53 pm
by buckaroo815
Jim Beaux wrote:
buckaroo815 wrote:
Hello Jim. I do like to shoot. I am a member of South East Texas Gun Club in Vidor. I shoot about 1-3 times a month. Maybe we can sometime.

I will look forward to it, but I cant go to the gun range in Vidor; Ive been banned till I cough up more of my personal info than I feel is warranted! :lol:

viewtopic.php?f=10&t=56204

WOW, what a bummer. I never sat and thought how much info I have given these folks.

Re: Can you shoot someone in the back that turns there back

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:02 pm
by buckaroo815
stealthfightrf17 wrote:Pastor, one of the thing that was discussed in my CHL class was how we would react in diffrent situations. In the wake of the theater masacre it has got me thinking very deeply about these things again. It is not abnormal for me to process things that happen when I read about them in the news, but some things stir it up deeper. The reallity is, every situation is deffrent and you can never plan 100% for your response. The bigger question that remains in every situation is can I live with myself in the aftermath. On here we often will discuss things, and get diffrent respons on how someone would act. Never have I even seen a hint that people only want shoot, and most would rather want the police to hadel it. In the case of a stollen wallet, I would be very hesitent to give it up easiley. Not because i have any money in it, they would be lucky for $20.00, but my address is in there. I could not sleep at night knowing they have this and my familey is home. My primery purpose for me having my CHL is not to protect me, but to keep my familey safe. When a situation happens, often were are forced to make a decission based of what someone else is doing. One of my biggest prayers is never to have to draw my weapon in self defense, let alone use it. However, If I am forced to make that decision by someone elses choice then it is something that I feel is the only way.
Lots of good info. Thank you. Im still learning the lingo here, so help me out. What is a BG? I see people using that term.

Re: Can you shoot someone in the back that turns there back

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:12 am
by The Annoyed Man
buckaroo815 wrote:
stealthfightrf17 wrote:What is a BG? I see people using that term.
An abbreviation for "Bad Guy."

Re: Can you shoot someone in the back that turns there back

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:47 am
by TexasGal
Yeah, we sort of speak in shorthand now and then :headscratch It can get a little confusing so don't hesitate to ask. You will run across more of them. I still have to look at some a second or two to realize what it is referring to.

Re: Can you shoot someone in the back that turns there back

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 8:14 am
by Keith B
The Annoyed Man wrote:
buckaroo815 wrote:
stealthfightrf17 wrote:What is a BG? I see people using that term.
An abbreviation for "Bad Guy."
Not to be confused with a Bee Gee if you grew up in the disco era. :biggrinjester:

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Seriously bucakaroo815, there are a lot of abbreviations and other things you will get to learn when you hand out here. Don't be afraid to ask it there is something you don't know, we have a lot of awesome members here on the forum and you can get the striaght scoop on a wide range of topics and subjects. :thumbs2: