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Re: Have you told your church security guards?

Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 9:07 pm
by The Annoyed Man
smoothoperator wrote:God knows I carry. I trust Him to tell anyone else at the church who needs to know.
I'm going to borrow that line some day. :lol:

Re: Have you told your church security guards?

Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 9:09 pm
by The Annoyed Man
apostate wrote:
chasfm11 wrote:Let's suppose that an outsider walks into the church with a gun. Let's also suppose that one of my fellow church members is an LEO or CHL . Without either of us knowing about the other, both of us draw and engage the outsider. Then what? With the threat hopefully neutralized, my next move almost anyplace else would likely be to turn in the direction of the other gunshots. I'm afraid that a LEO/CHL might do the same toward me. Things could get messy from there.
That's a legitimate concern, although one hardly unique to the church environment. A similar chain of events could unfold at a shopping mall, your place of business, or while stopping at H.E.B. for a gallon of milk on the way home.
This is why I made it a point to identify myself to the guys in security at my church.

Re: Have you told your church security guards?

Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 9:26 pm
by ClarkLZeuss
The Annoyed Man wrote:
apostate wrote:
chasfm11 wrote:Let's suppose that an outsider walks into the church with a gun. Let's also suppose that one of my fellow church members is an LEO or CHL . Without either of us knowing about the other, both of us draw and engage the outsider. Then what? With the threat hopefully neutralized, my next move almost anyplace else would likely be to turn in the direction of the other gunshots. I'm afraid that a LEO/CHL might do the same toward me. Things could get messy from there.
That's a legitimate concern, although one hardly unique to the church environment. A similar chain of events could unfold at a shopping mall, your place of business, or while stopping at H.E.B. for a gallon of milk on the way home.
This is why I made it a point to identify myself to the guys in security at my church.
TAM, do you mean the uniformed guards? Or the "safety team?" If it's the latter, how did you come to know who was on that team?

Re: Have you told your church security guards?

Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 7:17 pm
by posse
Do you guys tell the walmart greeter too? :lol:

Re: Have you told your church security guards?

Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 8:32 pm
by mamabearCali
We have several state boys including the captain of state police (and he carries all the time) and is on stage. I carry, but quietly. My gun is for me, mine, those standing beside me. If I am in the sanctuary it is likely that Steve will see the threat long before I do. In that case my job will be to get my kids down and try to get them out.

Re: Have you told your church security guards?

Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 10:22 pm
by 77346
To answer the question posted by the OP: no, I haven't and I won't.

For me having a CHL has one purpose: to protect myself and those I love if our lives were ever in danger. Having a license and carrying does not make me part of the church security team, nor gives me special privileges with LEO's, etc. If I'm not required to disclose that I am licensed/carrying, then I don't.