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Re: 30. 06 Signe at the wor place!

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 10:09 am
by RPB
Reds45ACP wrote:
RPB wrote: 1)
You could still be fired ... for any reason at all, or no reason at all; Texas is not a "right to work State" so if you are "caught carrying" they might fire you because they do not like your shoes that day ... or because they'd prefer you part your hair on the other side, or because it is against "employee policy" or fired "just because" ... no reason, just because. (People are fired "for no reason at all" a lot because they think then they can't be sued as easily for firing them "for the wrong reason")
Texas is, in fact, a Right to Work state. You cannot be forced to join a union to hold a job. Not really sure what that has to do with anything mentioned here. :headscratch

https://www.oag.state.tx.us/agency/righttowork.shtml
Disagree due to context of this topic doesn't concern union membership:
AFAIK, The Office of Atty Genl Opinion calling it a "right to work State" only as far as it concerns Union membership; In other words, you can not be fired for joining a Union, or due to race religion, national origin ... other Federal restrictions


Texas is an “employment-at-will” state. in contrast to 23 states that have "Right to Work" laws
https://www.google.com/search?q=texas+% ... 16&bih=622" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Texas is an “employment-at-will” state. Generally, employees without a written employment contract can be fired for good cause, bad cause, or no cause at all.
But yes, as far as Union memberships are concerned, you can't be fired or forced to join or fired or forced to refrain from joining unions.
You also can't be fired for filing Worker's Compensation Claims for on the job injuries, so most who do file those claims are fired for other reasons or no reason at all ...
It's striped socks day for all workers who are in your department at your pay grade with your hair color and you didn't wear striped socks so, we'll have to let you go ...insubordination- Company Policy-Dress Code.

And a lot of the laws which protect the worker under Federal laws, only apply if an employer has over/in excess of a certain number of employees, so some companies intentionally "stay small" so they are not even subject to the regulations (though that has nothing to do with the City as an employer; I just threw it in for free :???: )

Re: 30. 06 Signe at the wor place!

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 10:30 am
by Reds45ACP
RPB wrote:
Reds45ACP wrote:
RPB wrote: 1)
You could still be fired ... for any reason at all, or no reason at all; Texas is not a "right to work State" so if you are "caught carrying" they might fire you because they do not like your shoes that day ... or because they'd prefer you part your hair on the other side, or because it is against "employee policy" or fired "just because" ... no reason, just because. (People are fired "for no reason at all" a lot because they think then they can't be sued as easily for firing them "for the wrong reason")
Texas is, in fact, a Right to Work state. You cannot be forced to join a union to hold a job. Not really sure what that has to do with anything mentioned here. :headscratch

https://www.oag.state.tx.us/agency/righttowork.shtml
Disagree due to context of this topic doesn't concern union membership:
AFAIK, The Office of Atty Genl Opinion calling it a "right to work State" only as far as it concerns Union membership; In other words, you can not be fired for joining a Union, or due to race religion, national origin ... other Federal restrictions


Texas is an “employment-at-will” state.
https://www.google.com/search?q=texas+% ... 16&bih=622" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Texas is an “employment-at-will” state. Generally, employees without a written employment contract can be fired for good cause, bad cause, or no cause at all.
^^^ This applies to the discussion. :iagree:

Right to work is specifically for Union related issues. Hence, my confusion. I looks like the intended term was Employment-at-Will which is a different issue all together but does apply to the problem of carrying and getting terminated for that.

The following is off-topic so I apologize and will refrain from further posts that are. However, this is some interesting stuff to learn. :mrgreen:
Have a read on the link I posted. Texas is a Right to Work state in the full definition of the term. (i.e. Cannot be forced to pay union dues or join a union to gain or keep employment nor prevent you from joining a union with the threat of non-employment or loss of current employment.) :txflag: It all relates back to the Taff-Hartly act of 1947. More detail on that here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-to-work_law" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
End of off topic

Re: 30. 06 Signe at the wor place!

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 11:11 am
by AJHutton
Excellent discussion. I'm glad I work from home!

Re: 30. 06 Signe at the wor place!

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 7:23 pm
by JT69
Amen good stuff!!! Didn't really no what I started ! But I've learened a lot in a couple of days !!