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Piney Point couple out on their anniversary were robbed and beaten by the supposed Denny's gang in their driveway. They were apparently followed home.

Piney Point is in the Memorial Area and is one of the most expensive neighborhoods in Houston. It is near suburban and I thought well insulated from Houston's crime.

Hard to say if all these crimes are by the same Denny's guys, but makes for a better story.

My phone call with a very good contractor was interrupted by his painter finally being released by the FBI. When we resumed the call he explained his painter was on the job painting a Bank. It was robbed by three armed men. The painter was knocked to the ground by one of the robbers. My contractor was going to drive him home as he was too upset to drive.

This probably will not make the news here in Houston.

Three armed men also recently robbed a Denny's on I 10 and Shepard in Houston. A man was murdered by the robbers trying to shield children that were not his from the gun fire.

In both cases the robbers used violence for no reason other than to intimidate their victims. I hope the police can catch these guys.

It did make the news.

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Comments seem to agree with me and the similarities to the Denny's robbery.

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Two arrested in the Denny's murder.

Well done Houston Police.

Two down two to go.

philip964 wrote:http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas ... cmpid=hpbn

Two arrested in the Denny's murder.

Well done Houston Police.

Two down two to go.

That is good news. I really think they need to bring back the electric chair. Those would be some deserving candidates.

Too bad these monsters were not shot and killed trying to resist arrest. These cowards would never do such a thing as it's much safer murdering an unarmed defenseless Citizen and these vermin would never go toe to toe with an Armed American. Pathetic Cowards.

Where's the President of these United States? I'm sure he's thinking if these were his son's he would be very proud of them.

Three guys rush in wearing masks/bandanas, brandishing/displaying handguns, unless it's Halloween, it is probably time to put all that range time to good use.

You may die, but if you just sit there you may die anyway.[/quote]
What's that old saying? Something about a pile of brass?

Seriously though, no one can ever know what he or she will do. Too many variables. The layout of the building, the other patrons near and around you. One can never know until that time comes and hopefully for all of us, may it never happen.[/quote]

I love this sign. I've never seen it before. I'd like to print that out.

I'm so worried about my family in Houston. It has certainly turned into the Wild West!

I'm gonna ask hubby to go to the range today. Looking at the images of them busting in guns a blazing, really got me upset because I can picture my children sitting around me.

Mr. Charles what other kind of training can I do? You mentioned 2 kinds of training. And is there something online, I can rstudy in the meantime?

philip964 wrote:http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas ... cmpid=hpfc

Three masked armed robbers decided to kill anyway after getting customers on the floor. Happened at 11 PM. This is not a bad area of Houston.

I used to live 3 streets over from that Dennys for 5 years until six months ago. That area is a dump. Expensive houses dont mean low crime. That Rice Military and Memorial Park area is crime infested. Much worse than you can imagine.

Did anybody else notice one of the posted articles said they RE-OPENED a few hours later? They had customers coming in to check on them. What, did they also take pictures of the body chalk outline too? Very tacky of Denny's to re-open!

CHLLady wrote:Did anybody else notice one of the posted articles said they RE-OPENED a few hours later? They had customers coming in to check on them. What, did they also take pictures of the body chalk outline too? Very tacky of Denny's to re-open!

I don't think so. They run a business and it's not a shrine to the deceased. If the crime scene is cleared by police and the area cleaned up, then the best thing they can do is go back about their business and get their lives started back to normal. The more you allow employees or customers to dwell on the fact that a robbery and shooting occurred at a location the more detrimental it is to their psyche and the more harmful it is to them and the business.

Keith B wrote:

CHLLady wrote:Did anybody else notice one of the posted articles said they RE-OPENED a few hours later? They had customers coming in to check on them. What, did they also take pictures of the body chalk outline too? Very tacky of Denny's to re-open!

I don't think so. They run a business and it's not a shrine to the deceased. If the crime scene is cleared by police and the area cleaned up, then the best thing they can do is go back about their business and get their lives started back to normal. The more you allow employees or customers to dwell on the fact that a robbery and shooting occurred at a location the more detrimental it is to their psyche and the more harmful it is to them and the business.

I disagree. I think to open back up within a few ours of a horrific murder in the restaurant is insensitive to the family of the victim and employees, who may need counseling to deal with the trauma. It is also not very appetizing and would not dare choose to eat at a location where someone lay shot just hours previous. It's not like it was a customer with a heart attack, this was a traumatic event. They should have let their employees go home to their families. (They may have done so and brought in a new crew, I don't know.). Still, I believe it's disgusting that profit, is more important than showing proper respect and care to the family. Anyway, that's how it appears to me.

CHLLady wrote:

Keith B wrote:

CHLLady wrote:Did anybody else notice one of the posted articles said they RE-OPENED a few hours later? They had customers coming in to check on them. What, did they also take pictures of the body chalk outline too? Very tacky of Denny's to re-open!

I don't think so. They run a business and it's not a shrine to the deceased. If the crime scene is cleared by police and the area cleaned up, then the best thing they can do is go back about their business and get their lives started back to normal. The more you allow employees or customers to dwell on the fact that a robbery and shooting occurred at a location the more detrimental it is to their psyche and the more harmful it is to them and the business.

I disagree. I think to open back up within a few ours of a horrific murder in the restaurant is insensitive to the family of the victim and employees, who may need counseling to deal with the trauma. It is also not very appetizing and would not dare choose to eat at a location where someone lay shot just hours previous. It's not like it was a customer with a heart attack, this was a traumatic event. They should have let their employees go home to their families. (They may have done so and brought in a new crew, I don't know.). Still, I believe it's disgusting that profit, is more important than showing proper respect and care to the family. Anyway, that's how it appears to me.

Having been around murder scenes and robberies with shootings/death, I will tell you it is very common for the locale to open back up as soon as possible. The individual employees involved usually are not the ones that are back on the job immediately, it is other employees, but some do if they are up to it. However, if the business doesn't get back to normal quickly it can be very bad for them overall as the full staff and even customers start thinking more and more about the incident and it erodes the service level and the customers perception because they dwell on the fact 'a murder occurred here' and don't want to go back to the place. As cold as it may seem to you, it is the old adage of getting back on the horse as quickly as possible after you have been thrown off. Same with an officer who has been cleared of a shooting. It is best to get them back in the saddle again quickly and back to the normal routine. Been there, done that (I was not the shooter, but was one of the officers involved in the events.)

I would reopen as soon as I have a crew to work...

Count me in the "get back in the saddle" group. I don't see how closing the business, taking away wages from the owner and the employees, and possibly putting them on the glide slope to reduced business or going out of business due to notoriety is being sensitive to any one.

It probably was a new crew working the next day, but as the article noted, regular customers came by to check on the employees who were working, and that would be more theraupeutic than sitting at home (with no income for the day) dwelling on it. By all means, have a memorial, shut down for to go to the funeral, honor the brave man, but don't amplify the pschological and financial impact on everyone else.

You don't close down a busy intersection when someone dies. A return to normalcy is just as therapeutic and just as respectful as taking time to explore all of the emotions & examine all of the causes & effects. The problem in closing down a business for such introspection is that even more people become victimized by the closure - the customers & staff involved in the incident + the staff not involved that won't be able to work their shift + their families, etc.