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Re: Drinking while "Carrying"

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 6:34 pm
by nightmare69
jbarn wrote:
nightmare69 wrote:If the officer has reasonable suspicion to believe you are impaired while carrying you will be taking a ride to the county jail. You don't have to be legally intoxicated to be impaired. What I do is if I plan on having more than 1 drink, I go to my truck and disarm.
Yes, you do have to be legally Intoxicated to he impaired. One must be the legal definition of intoxication to be arrested.

And he needs probable cause. A much higher standard than reasonable suspicion.
I've heard different when from out local TABC agent. He said if someone is clearly impaired, such as stumbling, sluring speech, even if he blows a .06 he can be arrested. I've drank 2 beers on an empty stomach and felt like I drank a 12 pack.

Re: Drinking while "Carrying"

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 6:40 pm
by Oldgringo
jbarn wrote:
nightmare69 wrote:If the officer has reasonable suspicion to believe you are impaired while carrying you will be taking a ride to the county jail. You don't have to be legally intoxicated to be impaired. What I do is if I plan on having more than 1 drink, I go to my truck and disarm.
Yes, you do have to be legally Intoxicated to he impaired. One must be the legal definition of intoxication to be arrested.

And he needs probable cause. A much higher standard than reasonable suspicion.
:roll:

Re: Drinking while "Carrying"

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 7:00 pm
by Keith B
nightmare69 wrote:
jbarn wrote:
nightmare69 wrote:If the officer has reasonable suspicion to believe you are impaired while carrying you will be taking a ride to the county jail. You don't have to be legally intoxicated to be impaired. What I do is if I plan on having more than 1 drink, I go to my truck and disarm.
Yes, you do have to be legally Intoxicated to he impaired. One must be the legal definition of intoxication to be arrested.

And he needs probable cause. A much higher standard than reasonable suspicion.
I've heard different when from out local TABC agent. He said if someone is clearly impaired, such as stumbling, sluring speech, even if he blows a .06 he can be arrested. I've drank 2 beers on an empty stomach and felt like I drank a 12 pack.
That's probable cause, not reasonable suspicion. Reasonable suspicion would be you smell alcohol, but do not see any signs of impairment.

Re: Drinking while "Carrying"

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 7:03 pm
by jbarn
nightmare69 wrote:
jbarn wrote:
nightmare69 wrote:If the officer has reasonable suspicion to believe you are impaired while carrying you will be taking a ride to the county jail. You don't have to be legally intoxicated to be impaired. What I do is if I plan on having more than 1 drink, I go to my truck and disarm.
Yes, you do have to be legally Intoxicated to he impaired. One must be the legal definition of intoxication to be arrested.

And he needs probable cause. A much higher standard than reasonable suspicion.
I've heard different when from out local TABC agent. He said if someone is clearly impaired, such as stumbling, sluring speech, even if he blows a .06 he can be arrested. I've drank 2 beers on an empty stomach and felt like I drank a 12 pack.
I never wrote anything about a blood alcohol content. There are two definitions of intoxication, and only one is .08% BAC. A person is legally intoxicated if he meets either definition.

Re: Drinking while "Carrying"

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 7:04 pm
by jbarn
Oldgringo wrote:
jbarn wrote:
nightmare69 wrote:If the officer has reasonable suspicion to believe you are impaired while carrying you will be taking a ride to the county jail. You don't have to be legally intoxicated to be impaired. What I do is if I plan on having more than 1 drink, I go to my truck and disarm.
Yes, you do have to be legally Intoxicated to he impaired. One must be the legal definition of intoxication to be arrested.

And he needs probable cause. A much higher standard than reasonable suspicion.
:roll:

That's intelligent. Care to actually post something?

Re: Drinking while "Carrying"

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 7:06 pm
by jbarn
nightmare wrote:
jbarn wrote:
nightmare69 wrote:If the officer has reasonable suspicion to believe you are impaired while carrying you will be taking a ride to the county jail. You don't have to be legally intoxicated to be impaired. What I do is if I plan on having more than 1 drink, I go to my truck and disarm.
Yes, you do have to be legally Intoxicated to he impaired. One must be the legal definition of intoxication to be arrested.
In theory yes but I think mi tocayo is right in practice. Some bullies will make their victims take a ride to jail because of their personal prejudices even when there's no crime. Sometimes they throw in a free taser ride.

Sure, if a cop decides he hates your haircut he will tase you and take you to jail.

Re: Drinking while "Carrying"

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 7:07 pm
by nightmare69
I gotcha. I have yet to go through SFST. I doubt I will ever have any trouble out of a CHL holder anyway. I'm out there to catch the real criminals.

Re: Drinking while "Carrying"

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 7:10 pm
by nightmare69
jbarn wrote:
nightmare wrote:
jbarn wrote:
nightmare69 wrote:If the officer has reasonable suspicion to believe you are impaired while carrying you will be taking a ride to the county jail. You don't have to be legally intoxicated to be impaired. What I do is if I plan on having more than 1 drink, I go to my truck and disarm.
Yes, you do have to be legally Intoxicated to he impaired. One must be the legal definition of intoxication to be arrested.
In theory yes but I think mi tocayo is right in practice. Some bullies will make their victims take a ride to jail because of their personal prejudices even when there's no crime. Sometimes they throw in a free taser ride.

Sure, if a cop decides he hates your haircut he will tase you and take you to jail.
Don't forget getting sprayed with OC and getting beat with the Asp

Re: Drinking while "Carrying"

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 7:40 pm
by WildBill
nightmare69 wrote:
jbarn wrote:
nightmare wrote:
jbarn wrote:
nightmare69 wrote:If the officer has reasonable suspicion to believe you are impaired while carrying you will be taking a ride to the county jail. You don't have to be legally intoxicated to be impaired. What I do is if I plan on having more than 1 drink, I go to my truck and disarm.
Yes, you do have to be legally Intoxicated to he impaired. One must be the legal definition of intoxication to be arrested.
In theory yes but I think mi tocayo is right in practice. Some bullies will make their victims take a ride to jail because of their personal prejudices even when there's no crime. Sometimes they throw in a free taser ride.

Sure, if a cop decides he hates your haircut he will tase you and take you to jail.
Don't forget getting sprayed with OC and getting beat with the Asp
It has happened.

Re: Drinking while "Carrying"

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 8:23 pm
by nightmare69
I'm sure it has and will happen again. Just don't make the same mistake as the anti gunners and paint all LEOs with the same negative brush due to a few idiots.

Re: Drinking while "Carrying"

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 8:28 pm
by WildBill
nightmare69 wrote:I'm sure it has and will happen again. Just don't make the same mistake as the anti gunners and paint all LEOs with the same negative brush due to a few idiots.
I haven't painted anyone with any broad brush. Some people think that is doesn't ever happen. I am just saying that it does happen. :tiphat:

Re: Drinking while "Carrying"

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 8:34 pm
by nightmare69
WildBill wrote:
nightmare69 wrote:I'm sure it has and will happen again. Just don't make the same mistake as the anti gunners and paint all LEOs with the same negative brush due to a few idiots.
I haven't painted anyone with any brush. :tiphat:
I'm not saying you are I've just noticed many people having a negative attitude towards cops seems to be the norm now a days. No one like them till you need them.

Re: Drinking while "Carrying"

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 8:38 pm
by WildBill
nightmare69 wrote:
WildBill wrote:
nightmare69 wrote:I'm sure it has and will happen again. Just don't make the same mistake as the anti gunners and paint all LEOs with the same negative brush due to a few idiots.
I haven't painted anyone with any brush. :tiphat:
I'm not saying you are I've just noticed many people having a negative attitude towards cops seems to be the norm now a days. No one like them till you need them.
There has always been negative attitudes towards cops. Perhaps it is "human nature" to remember negative experiences rather than the positive. Even though these situations aren't the norm they do happen. To deny they don't sometimes happen is ludicrous.

Re: Drinking while "Carrying"

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 8:49 pm
by nightmare69
WildBill wrote:
nightmare69 wrote:
WildBill wrote:
nightmare69 wrote:I'm sure it has and will happen again. Just don't make the same mistake as the anti gunners and paint all LEOs with the same negative brush due to a few idiots.
I haven't painted anyone with any brush. :tiphat:
I'm not saying you are I've just noticed many people having a negative attitude towards cops seems to be the norm now a days. No one like them till you need them.
There has always been negative attitudes towards cops. Even though these situations aren't the norm they do happen. To deny they don't sometimes happen is ludicrous.
I'm not denying they have, and will happen again. Those bad cops tend to get dealt with and arrested/fired quick. I've always had a positive outlook on life and been a generally happy person. I hope dealing with the scum of society and putting my life on the line for people that hate my guts don't affect me too much. Dear Lord give me strength. Other than that it's a great job and you get to do some really cool ninja stuff.

Re: Drinking while "Carrying"

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 10:00 pm
by Oldgringo
jbarn wrote:
Oldgringo wrote:
jbarn wrote:
nightmare69 wrote:If the officer has reasonable suspicion to believe you are impaired while carrying you will be taking a ride to the county jail. You don't have to be legally intoxicated to be impaired. What I do is if I plan on having more than 1 drink, I go to my truck and disarm.
Yes, you do have to be legally Intoxicated to he impaired. One must be the legal definition of intoxication to be arrested.

And he needs probable cause. A much higher standard than reasonable suspicion.
:roll:
That's intelligent. Care to actually post something?
How's this?
Postby jbarn ยป Thu Feb 13, 2014 10:05 pm
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There is no BAC level required for DWI. As a cop, I got a conviction on a guy who blew zero.