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Re: Another instance of wrong house.

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2015 6:39 pm
by Taypo
If they all piled in through the back door, then it makes sense. It could also be utter horse puckey...

Re: Another instance of wrong house.

Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2015 6:04 am
by b322da
Charles L. Cotton wrote:...I don't care one whit about their training. If entry was made under the circumstances outlined by Excaliber, then it was unconstitutional and criminal. If they were doing as they were trained, then everyone involved in the training program are also guilty. "I was only following orders" didn't work at Nuremberg and it shouldn't work in law enforcement circles.

Chas.
Of the many words of wisdom shared with us by Chas., this one is at the top. Anyone who has read Chas.' posts knows that he is no "cop-basher," nor am I. We have both been LEO's, and we both respect them and their difficult job.

On the other hand, their being LEOs does not in any way excuse them when they misbehave, nor, as put by Chas., does "I was only following orders" excuse misbehavior.

Jim

Re: Another instance of wrong house.

Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2015 9:22 am
by JALLEN
This makes no sense on any level.

It's dark. A perp is believed to be inside. They all pile in the unlocked back door, without having anyone watching other doors, through which any perp with a brain in his head would escape. Why not watch all doors, wait for more back up, the perp has to come out sooner or later? This isn't SEAL Team 6, guys.

The homeowner has a gunshot wound, a dead dog and a winning lotto ticket to be cashed in at the county treasurer.

Re: Another instance of wrong house.

Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2015 9:52 am
by Taypo
JALLEN wrote:This makes no sense on any level.

It's dark. A perp is believed to be inside. They all pile in the unlocked back door, without having anyone watching other doors, through which any perp with a brain in his head would escape. Why not watch all doors, wait for more back up, the perp has to come out sooner or later? This isn't SEAL Team 6, guys.

The homeowner has a gunshot wound, a dead dog and a winning lotto ticket to be cashed in at the county treasurer.
You may have misunderstood me. I didn't mean that the action made sense, because it doesn't. It's garbage by a bunch of bad cops.

The explanation of how the shooting occurred makes sense.

Re: Another instance of wrong house.

Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2015 2:56 pm
by OldCurlyWolf
b322da wrote:
Charles L. Cotton wrote:...I don't care one whit about their training. If entry was made under the circumstances outlined by Excaliber, then it was unconstitutional and criminal. If they were doing as they were trained, then everyone involved in the training program are also guilty. "I was only following orders" didn't work at Nuremberg and it shouldn't work in law enforcement circles.

Chas.
Of the many words of wisdom shared with us by Chas., this one is at the top. Anyone who has read Chas.' posts knows that he is no "cop-basher," nor am I. We have both been LEO's, and we both respect them and their difficult job.

On the other hand, their being LEOs does not in any way excuse them when they misbehave, nor, as put by Chas., does "I was only following orders" excuse misbehavior.

Jim
:iagree:

As are Jim and Charles, I also am a former LEO. And these dolts messed up by the numbers. Limited Accountability/Liability is out the window. :mad5

Re: Another instance of wrong house.

Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2015 5:06 pm
by JALLEN
Taypo wrote:
JALLEN wrote:This makes no sense on any level.

It's dark. A perp is believed to be inside. They all pile in the unlocked back door, without having anyone watching other doors, through which any perp with a brain in his head would escape. Why not watch all doors, wait for more back up, the perp has to come out sooner or later? This isn't SEAL Team 6, guys.

The homeowner has a gunshot wound, a dead dog and a winning lotto ticket to be cashed in at the county treasurer.
You may have misunderstood me. I didn't mean that the action made sense, because it doesn't. It's garbage by a bunch of bad cops.

The explanation of how the shooting occurred makes sense.
I don't think I misunderstood. I wasn't referring to any of your comments that I know of. I was setting forth my own evaluation of the events as described. I agree with your comment above, of course. You used to see things like this in the movies, a long time ago.