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Just so we're clear, the Westboro Baptist church protests homosexuality by disrupting fallen soldiers funerals. The protesters in Irving protested radical Islam by going to a mosque. Please explain how these two things are similar?mojo84 wrote:I've reserved posting my thoughts on this for a bit so I could process them further. I believe what the protesters did was similar to what the Westboro Baptist idiots do. Just because something may be legal, it doesn't make it moral, ethical or right.
The action and behavior of the protesters are tactless and tasteless in both cases in my very own opinion.Richbirdhunter wrote:Just so we're clear, the Westboro Baptist church protests homosexuality by disrupting fallen soldiers funerals. The protesters in Irving protested radical Islam by going to a mosque. Please explain how these two things are similar?mojo84 wrote:I've reserved posting my thoughts on this for a bit so I could process them further. I believe what the protesters did was similar to what the Westboro Baptist idiots do. Just because something may be legal, it doesn't make it moral, ethical or right.
In Lebanon, we have Islamic and Christian courts. Both are limited to family law (inheritance, divorce, etc). Criminal law is still in the hands of the Government. It has been working for centuries. However, Lebanon is not US. Lebanon is collection of religious minority with deep conservatism.VoiceofReason wrote:I believe you misunderstood my point. Maybe I did a poor job of getting it across.Beiruty wrote:I agree with you, but I read somewhere that Orthodox Jews have their own court. If true, do we arrest those too?VoiceofReason wrote:This whole thing is stupid.
“By their own website’s admission, if U.S. law conflicts with Sharia law, “we follow Sharia law.” It also openly admitted separate rules for men and women in their proceedings, discriminating and humiliating women which is against the U.S. Constitution.”
The first time a man hit his wife and she called 911 or someone saw it and called it in, the guy would find himself in handcuffs going to jail. I would pay to watch him tell the judge that “we follow Sharia law.”.
In the comments,
Michael says:
October 27, 2015 at 1:10 pm
“I’m shocked four people thought this was a good idea. Vote those fools out. Liberals out of control and Muslims taking advantage of the ignorance. In Texas!”
He is right. The oath I took said “I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic;” Those four that voted in favor of allowing a “Sharia Court.” Should be immediately arrested, removed from office, and charged with whatever law that prevents attempting to undermine the Constitution.
They are domestic enemies of the Constitution
The hypothetical Muslim man that hit his wife would not be arrested for following Sharia law but for violating our laws.
Those four that voted to allow courts to be established under Sharia law were voting to allow Muslims do disregard our constitution and our laws.
I have no knowledge about Orthodox Jews and their own court but when it gets down to it I would bet that our laws take prescience over theirs.
Thanks JP171 for the assist. I occasionally go into “brain lock” when addressing a subject that raises my blood pressure.
All of this is ridiculous any way. The city of Irving does not have the final word in this case. The State and Federal governments would make the final determination. This just indicates how much these particular Muslims don’t know about our country.
No it is in regards to thread drift for sharia/Christian courts.SA_Steve wrote:Looks like a link that updates to the latest news...nothing about Irving, TX now.
They do regularly denounce terror attacks. Not every one that you could possibly call leaders, but there are always some, and sometime many, who do denounce terrorism. It's just not considered news worthy.Right2Carry wrote:When I start seeing Muslim leadership and peaceful Muslims denounce the Terror Attacks happening world wide, then maybe I will believe that they have a peaceful Religion. Until I see protests denouncing terror attacks and condemning of the Radicals......the silence tells me they secretly support it.Beiruty wrote:No, if you threaten some peaceful worshipers at a Mosque. One of those young men could pushed to respond in kind, even worse, return armed and misguidedly goes in shoot out with the armed protesters.Abraham wrote:G.A. Heath
Much of what you posted sounds reasonable, but this statement doesn't make sense to me.
"I would however like to know how many people at that Mosque are now more likely to be radicalized because of the intimidation efforts of this crowd."
Isn't this the same kind of thinking liberals are always bemoaning happens because we fight radicalized jihadis?
This has to be avoided at any cost. Confrontation is the worst that can happen. The whole community needs the Muslims community to be on their side. For all haters and doubters, do you know who would the first to tip FBI of any suspected terrorist?
Not even remotely true under the constitution of USA.HKsig wrote:The Muslims weren't even supposed to be here. We have a law on immigration that Muslims are not allowed to enter the USA.
Now who's fault is that?
Are you in Japan?HKsig wrote:The Muslims weren't even supposed to be here. We have a law on immigration that Muslims are not allowed to enter the USA.
Now who's fault is that?
No they don't, not in any significant numbers. It would be newsworthy if in fact they were to denounce the attacks. That dog won't hunt!EEllis wrote:They do regularly denounce terror attacks. Not every one that you could possibly call leaders, but there are always some, and sometime many, who do denounce terrorism. It's just not considered news worthy.Right2Carry wrote:When I start seeing Muslim leadership and peaceful Muslims denounce the Terror Attacks happening world wide, then maybe I will believe that they have a peaceful Religion. Until I see protests denouncing terror attacks and condemning of the Radicals......the silence tells me they secretly support it.Beiruty wrote:No, if you threaten some peaceful worshipers at a Mosque. One of those young men could pushed to respond in kind, even worse, return armed and misguidedly goes in shoot out with the armed protesters.Abraham wrote:G.A. Heath
Much of what you posted sounds reasonable, but this statement doesn't make sense to me.
"I would however like to know how many people at that Mosque are now more likely to be radicalized because of the intimidation efforts of this crowd."
Isn't this the same kind of thinking liberals are always bemoaning happens because we fight radicalized jihadis?
This has to be avoided at any cost. Confrontation is the worst that can happen. The whole community needs the Muslims community to be on their side. For all haters and doubters, do you know who would the first to tip FBI of any suspected terrorist?
Right2Carry wrote:No they don't, not in any significant numbers. It would be newsworthy if in fact they were to denounce the attacks. That dog won't hunt!EEllis wrote:They do regularly denounce terror attacks. Not every one that you could possibly call leaders, but there are always some, and sometime many, who do denounce terrorism. It's just not considered news worthy.Right2Carry wrote:When I start seeing Muslim leadership and peaceful Muslims denounce the Terror Attacks happening world wide, then maybe I will believe that they have a peaceful Religion. Until I see protests denouncing terror attacks and condemning of the Radicals......the silence tells me they secretly support it.Beiruty wrote:No, if you threaten some peaceful worshipers at a Mosque. One of those young men could pushed to respond in kind, even worse, return armed and misguidedly goes in shoot out with the armed protesters.Abraham wrote:G.A. Heath
Much of what you posted sounds reasonable, but this statement doesn't make sense to me.
"I would however like to know how many people at that Mosque are now more likely to be radicalized because of the intimidation efforts of this crowd."
Isn't this the same kind of thinking liberals are always bemoaning happens because we fight radicalized jihadis?
This has to be avoided at any cost. Confrontation is the worst that can happen. The whole community needs the Muslims community to be on their side. For all haters and doubters, do you know who would the first to tip FBI of any suspected terrorist?
