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Re: Walmart Sells "Seconds"?

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 3:40 pm
by WTR
My Wal Mart carries a variety of rifle and scoped guns which I would classify as "economical" combos. However, they also stock Remington ADLs,BDLs and CDLs with quality furniture. When they carried ARs, they were Colts, Smith & Wesson and Bushmasters

Re: Walmart Sells "Seconds"?

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 3:42 pm
by mojo84
WTR wrote:My Wal Mart carries a variety of rifle and scoped guns which I would classify as "economical" combos. However, they also stock Remington ADLs,BDLs and CDLs with quality furniture. When they carried ARs, they were Colts, Smith & Wesson and Bushmasters
Ok

Re: Walmart Sells "Seconds"?

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 4:16 pm
by WTR
I think it may be dependent on which Wal Mart you go to. I can go to one which will have a decent selection (depending on the time you go there) and one 45 miles away which has a pathetic selection of both rifles and ammo.

Re: Walmart Sells "Seconds"?

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 5:16 pm
by mrvmax
FYI for anyone who cares, the Colt 6920 is not top of the line. It may be a good, basic AR but far from top of the line. BCM, Noveski and others are much better, I think Christensen would be top of the line and even LaRue.

Re: Walmart Sells "Seconds"?

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 5:31 pm
by WildBill
WTR wrote:I think it may be dependent on which Wal Mart you go to. I can go to one which will have a decent selection (depending on the time you go there) and one 45 miles away which has a pathetic selection of both rifles and ammo.
This applies to many items sold at Walmart [and other stores as well].
Stores located in more affluent areas tend to have a wider selection, especially of higher end products.
Walmart is excellent with inventory control so they don't stock items that won't have a decent turnover rate.

Re: Walmart Sells "Seconds"?

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 5:50 pm
by cyphertext
mrvmax wrote:FYI for anyone who cares, the Colt 6920 is not top of the line. It may be a good, basic AR but far from top of the line. BCM, Noveski and others are much better, I think Christensen would be top of the line and even LaRue.
It is the top of the line for Colt. And, right or wrong, it is the standard which other ARs are judged by. But that is another topic...

Re: Walmart Sells "Seconds"?

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 5:59 pm
by puma guy
WTR wrote:I think it may be dependent on which Wal Mart you go to. I can go to one which will have a decent selection (depending on the time you go there) and one 45 miles away which has a pathetic selection of both rifles and ammo.
I noticed the gun display was missing from the Arlington WalMart at 287 and Sublett on my last visit. I asked and was told by the gentleman attendant in sporting goods that only the "rural" stores would be carrying firearms. I don't know how accurate this is, but it seems to be borne out by the newly missing firearms from my two local stores when just beyond in a smaller city (La Porte) they still carry them. Likewise the Wal Mart in Mansfield just a few miles from Arlington still carries firearms as does the one in Burleson. I think their term "rural" has a liberal interpretation, nonetheless gun displays have been disappearing.

Re: Walmart Sells "Seconds"?

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 6:02 pm
by Right2Carry
mojo84 wrote:
Right2Carry wrote:
mojo84 wrote:
Right2Carry wrote:
mojo84 wrote:
Right2Carry wrote:I have purchased several guns from wal-mart and the model numbers ore exactly the same as you would get from any other gun store.
Is that the case for all guns and other merchandise walmart sells? I don't think anyone is saying or implying that all guns and merchandise carry retailer specific model numbers.
Wal-mart sold Sigs and Colt ARs. Does anyone really believe those two companies would put their name on an inferior product? I believe selling seconds as a new product would fall under some type of misrepresentation of the product and open themselves up to a potential lawsuit.

I'm not talking about damaged or dangerous. I know for a fact that sell stripped down guns that have lesser grade components, such as stocks and optics. Do you not realize that just about every manufacturer has multiple quality grades of of there products? Do you think all gunstocks are created equal?

Why do some guns from a manufacter cost less than other guns from the same manufacturers? Wal-Mart does not carry the top of the line guns. That doesn't mean some of their gun aren't the same as those sold elsewhere.

For those that still doubt this, go compare the shotgun and rifle stocks and wood to others. They typically use cosmetically lesser wood.
I think you are the one who is confused about the OP about firearms. I have purchased both a Colt and a Weatherby from wal mart and they are identical to the guns that the manufacture lists on the website. Unless you have some sort of proof that Wal-Mart is engaging in deceptive practices like selling a Colt LE6920 as new when it is actually a "second", I would stop engaging in the rumor mill.

I have yet to see anyone provide any proof only speculation.
This is more all or nothing. They do carry weatherby, charles daley, colt, Winchester and others. Are all of the guns that they carry "top of the line" for each manufacturer? Even a Remington bdl or abl come with different grades of wood. Many of the ones carried at Wal-Mart are have the lower grade wood. Not all but many.
You keep talking about wood. You offer no proof of your speculation.

Re: Walmart Sells "Seconds"?

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 6:12 pm
by cyphertext
puma guy wrote:
WTR wrote:I think it may be dependent on which Wal Mart you go to. I can go to one which will have a decent selection (depending on the time you go there) and one 45 miles away which has a pathetic selection of both rifles and ammo.
I noticed the gun display was missing from the Arlington WalMart at 287 and Sublett on my last visit. I asked and was told by the gentleman attendant in sporting goods that only the "rural" stores would be carrying firearms. I don't know how accurate this is, but it seems to be borne out by the newly missing firearms from my two local stores when just beyond in a smaller city (La Porte) they still carry them. Likewise the Wal Mart in Mansfield just a few miles from Arlington still carries firearms as does the one in Burleson. I think their term "rural" has a liberal interpretation, nonetheless gun displays have been disappearing.
The last time Walmart started reducing the number of stores that carried firearms, they removed them from stores that did not sell $x in firearms the previous year. I don't remember what that $x figure was though. The Walmart closest to me lost their firearms due to this... they were a new supercenter that hadn't been open a year. Corporate did not make an exception for them though... firearm sales did not equal $x, so firearms were removed.

Re: Walmart Sells "Seconds"?

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 6:41 pm
by Right2Carry
cyphertext wrote:
puma guy wrote:
WTR wrote:I think it may be dependent on which Wal Mart you go to. I can go to one which will have a decent selection (depending on the time you go there) and one 45 miles away which has a pathetic selection of both rifles and ammo.
I noticed the gun display was missing from the Arlington WalMart at 287 and Sublett on my last visit. I asked and was told by the gentleman attendant in sporting goods that only the "rural" stores would be carrying firearms. I don't know how accurate this is, but it seems to be borne out by the newly missing firearms from my two local stores when just beyond in a smaller city (La Porte) they still carry them. Likewise the Wal Mart in Mansfield just a few miles from Arlington still carries firearms as does the one in Burleson. I think their term "rural" has a liberal interpretation, nonetheless gun displays have been disappearing.
The last time Walmart started reducing the number of stores that carried firearms, they removed them from stores that did not sell $x in firearms the previous year. I don't remember what that $x figure was though. The Walmart closest to me lost their firearms due to this... they were a new supercenter that hadn't been open a year. Corporate did not make an exception for them though... firearm sales did not equal $x, so firearms were removed.
The wal mart in Mansfield still carries Rifles and shotguns. They do not carry ARs anymore.

Re: Walmart Sells "Seconds"?

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 7:31 pm
by Unocat
Other than (once again) devolving into a "does Walmart Sell Seconds" thread :mrgreen: I can also tell you that Walmart, Target, HD, Lowes, etc... force "right of return-ability" into their supplier contracts. This means they might buy 1000 units of X and if X doesn't sell well, they can ship them all back tot the distributor or manufacturer and exhibit no loss... Not sure if the gun manufacturers would sign up to it, but almost all the merchandise you see on the shelves are under that provision.

NB - green smiley - i know this is a discussion about Walmart and seconds :mrgreen:

Re: Walmart Sells "Seconds"?

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 7:39 pm
by mrvmax
cyphertext wrote:
mrvmax wrote:FYI for anyone who cares, the Colt 6920 is not top of the line. It may be a good, basic AR but far from top of the line. BCM, Noveski and others are much better, I think Christensen would be top of the line and even LaRue.
It is the top of the line for Colt. And, right or wrong, it is the standard which other ARs are judged by. But that is another topic...
You are wrong, it is not the top of the line for Colt - this is:
http://www.coltcompetitionrifle.com/

Re: Walmart Sells "Seconds"?

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 8:02 pm
by cyphertext
mrvmax wrote:
cyphertext wrote:
mrvmax wrote:FYI for anyone who cares, the Colt 6920 is not top of the line. It may be a good, basic AR but far from top of the line. BCM, Noveski and others are much better, I think Christensen would be top of the line and even LaRue.
It is the top of the line for Colt. And, right or wrong, it is the standard which other ARs are judged by. But that is another topic...
You are wrong, it is not the top of the line for Colt - this is:
http://www.coltcompetitionrifle.com/
No... Those aren't even made by Colt... they are made by a company here in Texas, and branded by Colt. Ever seen someone who's life depends on their rifle use one of those? Those are made for playing games, a sporting gun.

Re: Walmart Sells "Seconds"?

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 8:34 pm
by mrvmax
cyphertext wrote:
mrvmax wrote:
cyphertext wrote:
mrvmax wrote:FYI for anyone who cares, the Colt 6920 is not top of the line. It may be a good, basic AR but far from top of the line. BCM, Noveski and others are much better, I think Christensen would be top of the line and even LaRue.
It is the top of the line for Colt. And, right or wrong, it is the standard which other ARs are judged by. But that is another topic...
You are wrong, it is not the top of the line for Colt - this is:
http://www.coltcompetitionrifle.com/
No... Those aren't even made by Colt... they are made by a company here in Texas, and branded by Colt. Ever seen someone who's life depends on their rifle use one of those? Those are made for playing games, a sporting gun.
You sure dance around your mistakes in the effort to avoid the fact that you are still wrong. Despite who makes it that is high end Colt hence the reason Colt has their name on it. Since you are wrong with your statements you now change the discussion to what people use when their life depends on it. You are still wrong and I'm done trying to correct your misinformation.

Re: Walmart Sells "Seconds"?

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 9:06 pm
by cyphertext
mrvmax wrote:
cyphertext wrote:
mrvmax wrote:
cyphertext wrote:
mrvmax wrote:FYI for anyone who cares, the Colt 6920 is not top of the line. It may be a good, basic AR but far from top of the line. BCM, Noveski and others are much better, I think Christensen would be top of the line and even LaRue.
It is the top of the line for Colt. And, right or wrong, it is the standard which other ARs are judged by. But that is another topic...
You are wrong, it is not the top of the line for Colt - this is:
http://www.coltcompetitionrifle.com/
No... Those aren't even made by Colt... they are made by a company here in Texas, and branded by Colt. Ever seen someone who's life depends on their rifle use one of those? Those are made for playing games, a sporting gun.
You sure dance around your mistakes in the effort to avoid the fact that you are still wrong. Despite who makes it that is high end Colt hence the reason Colt has their name on it. Since you are wrong with your statements you now change the discussion to what people use when their life depends on it. You are still wrong and I'm done trying to correct your misinformation.
No, they are not made by Colt... licensed by, but not made by. Not saying that they are bad rifles, but they are not the standard of which the whole AR 15 market is judged by... The LE6920 is.

But fine, we can go with your view... which would be like GMC and Chevy.... So, the LE6920 would be the top of the line of the mil-spec type guns, made for a particular market. Colt competition would be another line made to sell to a complete different market.

BTW, I don't even own a Colt, so I really couldn't care less about this argument.