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Re: Senate hearing to monitor open, campus carry gun laws

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 10:41 am
by AJSully421
mojo84 wrote:
jerry_r60 wrote:
RHenriksen wrote:
RoyGBiv wrote:At about 52:30, Sen Birdwell is talking about a possible change to 30.06 next session. Apparently there was some discussion/intention last session about using 30.06 to prevent BOTH CC and OC, but that intention didn't get written into the law. Buirdwell is discussing an intention to address that in 2017.

Summary: If passed in 2017, 30.06 would prohibit CC and OC. 30.06 would prohibit OC only.
I think you have a typo in there somewhere
This was an interesting little tidbit. Yes, there is a slight typo there, I think the intended summary would be:

Summary: If passed in 2017, 30.06 would prohibit CC and OC. 30.07 would prohibit OC only.

This does reduce the burden on property owners but it also does make it that much easier to just put up the one sign and ban all carry. It creates an incentive to ban all carry, the incentive being the use of less wall space.

I hope this was not the intent of the legislature.
Nevermind, Charles addressed it.

Re: Senate hearing to monitor open, campus carry gun laws

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 11:44 am
by mojo84
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Re: Senate hearing to monitor open, campus carry gun laws

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 11:56 am
by mojo84
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Re: Senate hearing to monitor open, campus carry gun laws

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 12:04 pm
by Charles L. Cotton
mojo84 wrote:The Harris County DA also addressed the issue of "on or about your person" while carrying in a vehicle by a license holder. It is the opinion of the Harris County DA's office as long as the handgun remains in a shoulder or belt holster, it does not have to be on the person's body to be considered openly carried and legal. About 59 minutes into the video.
I can see how some people would come to this conclusion, because the statute does not state that the shoulder or belt holster needs to be worn by the LTC. I could also see an appellate court issuing an opinion that the reference to holsters implies that they must be worn on the person. It would go either way, but look at the exact language used:
Tex. Penal Code §46.035(a) wrote:It is an exception to the application of this subsection that the handgun was partially or wholly visible but was carried in a shoulder or belt holster by the license holder.
The testimony referred to the typical language "on or about the person" found throughout the Penal Code, including §46.02. The specific language at issue does not use the phrase "on or about the person; it specifically states "carried.

Obviously, the Harris County DA's office will not accept charges for violation of TPC §46.035(a) if the handgun is in a holster in your vehicle. Other district attorneys may feel differently. People need to understand the risk when they choose to lay a holster on the seat of their car or truck, or use a console-mounted holster, etc.

Chas.

Re: Senate hearing to monitor open, campus carry gun laws

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 1:27 pm
by jmorris
At the Jan 20 instructor class on one day the trooper instructing did state that the handgun could be in a holster on the seat beside you. The next day they issued a clarification that in DPS's view the handgun had to be in a holster *on* the person. IIRC, when asked about a holster mounted in the vehicle the basic response was "as long as it's concealed".

Re: Senate hearing to monitor open, campus carry gun laws

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 3:55 pm
by Bladed
baldeagle wrote:Southwest Regional Directory, Students For Concealed Carry, Antonia Okafor
She was great, as always.
https://www.facebook.com/ConcealedCampu ... 1048872622