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Re: The Hurt Locker...it makes me hurt
Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 4:47 pm
by gregthehand
bronco78 wrote:Direct fire IED detonation was specifically forbidden almost 4 years ago. The JOINT IED DEFEAT center, and EOD center of excellence found that it created a more hazardous situation for EOD personal if the IED did not detonate, then if the team dealt with the IED in a more standard procedure. Additionally., IED's in use after about 2004 were / are much less susceptible to a direct fire engagement. Add in to it the need to reduce collateral damage.. and all good reason to not attempt to do direct fire IE D detonation. All that said,,, sure there are still wanabe heroes that do it anyway.. More often than not creating an unstable mess that an EOD tech has to then move to and emplace a charger for a controlled detonation.
Sure enough but the film was supposed to have taken place in 2004. So when they were still shooting stuff to blow it up.
I was just pointing out that it was conceivable that they would know how to operate the rifle and shoot it accurately.

Re: The Hurt Locker...it makes me hurt
Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 5:09 pm
by E.Marquez
gregthehand wrote:bronco78 wrote:Direct fire IED detonation was specifically forbidden almost 4 years ago. The JOINT IED DEFEAT center, and EOD center of excellence found that it created a more hazardous situation for EOD personal if the IED did not detonate, then if the team dealt with the IED in a more standard procedure. Additionally., IED's in use after about 2004 were / are much less susceptible to a direct fire engagement. Add in to it the need to reduce collateral damage.. and all good reason to not attempt to do direct fire IE D detonation. All that said,,, sure there are still wanabe heroes that do it anyway.. More often than not creating an unstable mess that an EOD tech has to then move to and emplace a charger for a controlled detonation.
Sure enough but the film was supposed to have taken place in 2004. So when they were still shooting stuff to blow it up.
I was just pointing out that it was conceivable that they would know how to operate the rifle and shoot it accurately.

Yes Sir, no argument or dispute.. My apologies if it came off that way.
I see posts and threads like these and have a long 24 year career, intuitionally trained urge to clarify errors, remarks, or just points of reference. I mean no disrespect to anyone here. Nor am I attempting to be antagonistic in my replies.
As this is strike two in this thread for me.. I’ll step away from it, and leave the discussion to others.

Re: The Hurt Locker...it makes me hurt
Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 6:09 pm
by Oldgringo
AndyC wrote:Film-makers don't want truth - they're not shooting a documentary. They want art.
...and ticket $ale$...
Re: The Hurt Locker...it makes me hurt
Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 8:16 am
by 3dfxMM
As this is strike two in this thread for me.. I’ll step away from it, and leave the discussion to others.
Please don't do that. I, for one, will be disappointed if you do. The voice of experience is always valuable.
Re: The Hurt Locker...it makes me hurt
Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 3:52 pm
by gregthehand
bronco78 wrote:gregthehand wrote:Yes Sir, no argument or dispute.. My apologies if it came off that way.
I see posts and threads like these and have a long 24 year career, intuitionally trained urge to clarify errors, remarks, or just points of reference. I mean no disrespect to anyone here. Nor am I attempting to be antagonistic in my replies.
As this is strike two in this thread for me.. I’ll step away from it, and leave the discussion to others.

Ah man I for one sure do like your input. I've learned some things at this point. Please keep posting.
Re: The Hurt Locker...it makes me hurt
Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 4:15 pm
by E.Marquez
Thanks, both of ya
I know I come off sometimes as if I'm sharp shooting folks, and that is not my intent at all.
I don’t really talk about this stuff much without cause.. but it does not bother me to correct stuff I read... If that makes any sense at all

Re: The Hurt Locker...it makes me hurt
Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 9:21 pm
by A-R
This entire thread is fascinating. Thanks to each of you for your service

Re: The Hurt Locker...it makes me hurt
Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 2:23 am
by cbr600
AndyC wrote:cling wrote:The reputation of the Gurkhas makes me think of the "one riot, one ranger" quote.
I sure wouldn't want to provoke one

Apropos.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... attle.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
A Gurkha soldier in the British Army has been removed from duty in Afghanistan after he beheaded a dead Taliban commander with his ceremonial kukri knife.
The Nepalese private decapitated the dead man with the intention of returning to base with the head so the Taliban fighter could be identified by senior officers as a 'high value target'.
Re: The Hurt Locker...it makes me hurt
Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 6:52 am
by E.Marquez
cbr600 wrote:AndyC wrote:cling wrote:The reputation of the Gurkhas makes me think of the "one riot, one ranger" quote.
I sure wouldn't want to provoke one

Apropos.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... attle.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
A Gurkha soldier in the British Army has been removed from duty in Afghanistan after he beheaded a dead Taliban commander with his ceremonial kukri knife.
The Nepalese private decapitated the dead man with the intention of returning to base with the head so the Taliban fighter could be identified by senior officers as a 'high value target'.
See, what a great Idea.. all's we would have done is take a picture

The Nepalese private's idea sounds much more effective.
Re: The Hurt Locker...it makes me hurt
Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 9:51 am
by RiverCity.45
If I may draw your attention to the fact that this was not a documentary, but a film for entertainment, that may put it in the proper perspective.
Re: The Hurt Locker...it makes me hurt
Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 6:25 am
by Purplehood
RiverCity.45 wrote:If I may draw your attention to the fact that this was not a documentary, but a film for entertainment, that may put it in the proper perspective.
Yeah, but Monday-morning quarterbacking is still fun...
Re: The Hurt Locker...it makes me hurt
Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 10:18 am
by Texas Dan Mosby
If I may draw your attention to the fact that this was not a documentary, but a film for entertainment, that may put it in the proper perspective.
This is true.
However, if a film was made "based" upon your life, and you were portrayed as a wife beating, child abusing, satanic, crack-dealing transvestite prostitute who kills puppies, drives drunk, and shoplifts for sport and entertainment, you would probably not be too happy with the portrayal, despite the fact the film was made for entertainment.
Re: The Hurt Locker...it makes me hurt
Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 11:08 am
by E.Marquez
Texas Dan Mosby wrote:If I may draw your attention to the fact that this was not a documentary, but a film for entertainment, that may put it in the proper perspective.
This is true.
However, if a film was made "based" upon your life, and you were portrayed as a wife beating, child abusing, satanic, crack-dealing transvestite prostitute who kills puppies, drives drunk, and shoplifts for sport and entertainment, you would probably not be too happy with the portrayal, despite the fact the film was made for entertainment.
And we have a winner……
Re: The Hurt Locker...it makes me hurt
Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 1:45 pm
by Afff_667
I'm going to add to the chorus another sincere, heart-felt "thank you" to all of you posting here and those mentioned in this thread who have served or are currently serving. I cannot describe the amount of respect I have for you.
Thank you.