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At least one congressman is standing up against it

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lkd wrote:At least one congressman is standing up against it

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434 other members of the House and not one co-sponsor. Sad!

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Ron Paul is on the mark, as usual.

You can skip to 6:24 to hear Paul on this topic, but the whole video is pretty good.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flJvKPM_Nf4

How many terrorists have the new measures caught? (Actual terrorists - not patriotic Americans who were arrested for exercising their First Amendment right to free speech to object to the unreasonable search and seizure.)

So now government employees are groping children and creating high tech child pornography. For what?

The terrorists know about these measures. Now they can chose to attack softer targets with their homicide-bombs. Like movie theaters. Like subways and commuter trains. Like school Christmas pageants. The list is endless.

OCD wrote:How many terrorists have the new measures caught? (Actual terrorists - not patriotic Americans who were arrested for exercising their First Amendment right to free speech to object to the unreasonable search and seizure.)

So now government employees are groping children and creating high tech child pornography. For what?

The terrorists know about these measures. Now they can chose to attack softer targets with their homicide-bombs. Like movie theaters. Like subways and commuter trains. Like school Christmas pageants. The list is endless.

On the news just now, they said it has already caught people trying to smuggle onboard marijuana, booze and even knives.

sjfcontrol wrote:On the news just now, they said it has already caught people trying to smuggle onboard marijuana, booze and even knives.

Were they those little bottles the airline sells in flight? Oh the humanity!

I flew to Europe through Schiphol airport this past summer with my grandson on our way elsewhere.

It was funny in a way. In the US, they wanted my shoes but not my belt. In Amsterdam, they weren't concerned about my shoes but wanted to scan my belt.

On the way out of Schiphol we had to go through a full body scanner, at least I did. At first it appears they wanted my grandson to be scanned to. I guess after a minute of reflection, they made the decision he wasn't a threat. I wasn't so considered, so they body scanned me.

It's very sad the way that we react after a threat (shoe bomber? start scanning shoes). Now they want my underwear?

What's next?

This article came across a friends facebook page a few days ago:
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I sincerely hope someone at the TSA reads that article and learns something.

SmoothFox wrote:

Along those lines ...

I won't post the actual pictures here because they are a bit disturbing - but very poignant. But I would encourage the adults on this forum to click the links to view. I hope, under the circumstances, that the moderators will be lenient. If not, I apologize in advance.

Taken from the FaceBook 'We Wont Fly' group:

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KC5AV wrote:This article came across a friends facebook page a few days ago:
http://www.thestar.com/iphone/news/worl ... tle-bother" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Excellent article. Thanks for posting it.

AFAICT, the difference in airport security is a direct result of the differences in personnel goals. Israeli airport security uses skilled professionals who want to stop terrorist attacks.

Compare that to TSA hiring unskilled and semi-skilled drones who want to bully their betters and fondle underage girls. There may be exceptions, but their actions speak very clearly, as do the opinion real LEOS have for Team Sexual Assault.

Penn Jillette of Penn & Teller fame called the cops for a TSA agent assaulting him. He wrote about it here.

I just watched Houston's own Sheila Jackson Lee on Anderson Cooper defend these policies. She said something to the effect that if these scanners would have existed on 9/11 it would have prevented the attacks.

Hmmm, really! My memory is that they used box-cutters which were non-banned items at the time. (Heck, I remember putting my pocket-knife in the little bowl to go through the metal detector and them handing it back to me!) So it seems to me that they didn't have to SNEAK anything on. The scanners would not have changed a thing.

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With all my reasonable arguments for and against the "new norm", this would be where I draw the line if I was a father...

Found one benifet of being tall. I dont have to go through the machines.I cant stand up in them and since i didnt refuse to go through i didnt have to do the fondling so the whole process was same as ever for me. yay for the world hating tall folks. wouldnt have flown but it was the only option but it was pleasant to find that I didnt have to go through all the crap everyone else does