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Good outcome. Good Guys should always win and Criminals should always lose.

rbwhatever1 wrote:Good outcome. Good Guys should always win and Criminals should always lose.

That's a good philosophy.

WildBill wrote:

rbwhatever1 wrote:Good outcome. Good Guys should always win and Criminals should always lose.

That's a good philosophy.

If you'll permit. A better philosophy is to never, ever, make judgements about the innocence or guilt of anyone based on what we read, see, or hear from the media. Whatever the media says, an American is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. The "news" (read that "entertainment") industry is hardly where anyone should be judged. I am disturbed by folks on here, of all places, making judgements about guilt or innocence based on what the media says. God forbid, but I pray that if anything ever happens and I am in the hot seat, that you won't judge me until all the facts are in. Picking on no one in particular.

ShootDontTalk wrote:If you'll permit. A better philosophy is to never, ever, make judgements about the innocence or guilt of anyone based on what we read, see, or hear from the media. Whatever the media says, an American is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. The "news" (read that "entertainment") industry is hardly where anyone should be judged. I am disturbed by folks on here, of all places, making judgements about guilt or innocence based on what the media says. God forbid, but I pray that if anything ever happens and I am in the hot seat, that you won't judge me until all the facts are in. Picking on no one in particular.

After serving as a juror several times I can attest to this. I mean you hear the prosecuting attorney and you are like yeah, he/she is guilty. But then you hear the defendant's attorney and you are like wait, maybe he/she is innocent. And so it goes until you've heard all of the facts and then you make your determination of guilt or innocence.
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ShootDontTalk wrote:If you'll permit. A better philosophy is to never, ever, make judgements about the innocence or guilt of anyone based on what we read, see, or hear from the media. Whatever the media says, an American is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. The "news" (read that "entertainment") industry is hardly where anyone should be judged. I am disturbed by folks on here, of all places, making judgements about guilt or innocence based on what the media says. God forbid, but I pray that if anything ever happens and I am in the hot seat, that you won't judge me until all the facts are in. Picking on no one in particular.

So all citizens must adhere to the rules for a juror before establishing an opinion? I don't think that is practical.

mojo84 wrote:

ShootDontTalk wrote:If you'll permit. A better philosophy is to never, ever, make judgements about the innocence or guilt of anyone based on what we read, see, or hear from the media. Whatever the media says, an American is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. The "news" (read that "entertainment") industry is hardly where anyone should be judged. I am disturbed by folks on here, of all places, making judgements about guilt or innocence based on what the media says. God forbid, but I pray that if anything ever happens and I am in the hot seat, that you won't judge me until all the facts are in. Picking on no one in particular.

So all citizens must adhere to the rules for a juror before establishing an opinion? I don't think that is practical.

In the news media all we hear about the president is what a great guy he is, what a great president. He was a professor of constitutional law at a Chicago college and is an authority on the U.S. Constitution. Nothing mentioned as to why he and his wife were disbared. Eric Holder is a great person, he is very learned and a great lawyer. Nuff said.

mojo84 wrote: So all citizens must adhere to the rules for a juror before establishing an opinion? I don't think that is practical.

Of course not. Having an opinion is one thing. Reading the many threads here, and this forum is hardly the only one, it seems a lot of people are always ready to pronounce someone guilty without knowing all the facts. Others always withhold judgement until they have all the facts and always counsel restraint. I just wish more would join the latter group.