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Re: SB11 Campus Carry House Floor Debate 5/26/15
Posted: Tue May 26, 2015 2:38 pm
by Charles L. Cotton
Vitticeps wrote:This stalling is pathetic. Nothing less than abusing the rules. The rules were never written with the intent to provide a way to delay bills that you do not like.
The more I learn about politics, the more saddened by it I become.
Absolutely true!! The House and Senate need to change their rules to all a "call the question" move to cut off "debate" that is purely stall tactics.
Chas.
Re: SB11 Campus Carry House Floor Debate 5/26/15
Posted: Tue May 26, 2015 2:39 pm
by Ruark
It says at
http://www.legis.state.tx.us/BillLookup ... &Bill=SB11" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; that as of 5/26/15 (today), SB11 has been placed on the "major state calendar." Does that mean anything?
Re: SB11 Campus Carry House Floor Debate 5/26/15
Posted: Tue May 26, 2015 2:40 pm
by Charles L. Cotton
It's dead. There are 9 pages of bills on the calendar and SB11 is on page 6. Democrats are chubbing everything so the clock will run out.
Chas.
Re: SB11 Campus Carry House Floor Debate 5/26/15
Posted: Tue May 26, 2015 2:41 pm
by Charles L. Cotton
So much for Straus' promise to get SB11 to the House Floor for debate and voting. I want to see the House Journal when it's published to see what Republicans voted against the motion to suspend the rules.
Chas.
Re: SB11 Campus Carry House Floor Debate 5/26/15
Posted: Tue May 26, 2015 2:43 pm
by Papa_Tiger
Charles L. Cotton wrote:Papa_Tiger wrote:I applaud the legislators for using the rules as written to achieve their desired result. I only wish some of our national representatives would stand on principle and use the rules to their fullest extent to block things that they dislike.
As much as I may dislike the likely outcome of their actions, I appreciate that they are willing to work within the rules as written.
This was not an underhanded move; it's done all the time. It is done in part because of the Star Chamber-like procedure of having a Calendars Committee that works in absolute secrecy. The House should have the same procedure used by the Senate so no Member can secretly kill/tag a bill in Calendars.
Chas.
I was referring to the action on the floor today rather than anything leading up to this in the Calendars Committee. The fact that SB 11 made it out of the Calendars Committee and onto the floor calendar when it did meant that there was a limited time for the bill to live. I appreciate that those opposed to it worked within the rules of the House to kill a bill they deemed unacceptable while potentially killing other bills that they may have supported.
If I'm going to be consistent in my praise of the rules when they work for me, I have to praise the rules when they work against me as well. That doesn't mean that I shouldn't look for a way to change the rules, but I also have to acknowledge that I change the rules at my own peril.
Re: SB11 Campus Carry House Floor Debate 5/26/15
Posted: Tue May 26, 2015 2:44 pm
by TXBO
"We have met the enemy, and he is us."
Re: SB11 Campus Carry House Floor Debate 5/26/15
Posted: Tue May 26, 2015 2:44 pm
by safety1
Maybe we could recognize a few more people in the gallery today!!!
Re: SB11 Campus Carry House Floor Debate 5/26/15
Posted: Tue May 26, 2015 2:44 pm
by Aggie_engr
Is Speaker Straus rated by the NRA/TSRA and how will his actions this session affect that?
Re: SB11 Campus Carry House Floor Debate 5/26/15
Posted: Tue May 26, 2015 2:45 pm
by XinTX
Someone on another board posted this:
"Per Texas Tribune, Rick Galindo and Sarah Davis are the two R's who voted against suspension."
Re: SB11 Campus Carry House Floor Debate 5/26/15
Posted: Tue May 26, 2015 2:45 pm
by TrueFlog
Charles L. Cotton wrote:So much for Straus' promise to get SB11 to the House Floor for debate and voting. I want to see the House Journal when it's published to see what Republicans voted against the motion to suspend the rules.
Chas.
Someone on Twitter posted a picture of the voting record:
https://twitter.com/amanbatheja/status/ ... 16/photo/1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: SB11 Campus Carry House Floor Debate 5/26/15
Posted: Tue May 26, 2015 2:46 pm
by Tracker
Charles L. Cotton wrote:So much for Straus' promise to get SB11 to the House Floor for debate and voting. I want to see the House Journal when it's published to see what Republicans voted against the motion to suspend the rules.
Chas.
So with all the senators and reps with their names on the related bill there won't be a blow back to Straus in '17?
Re: SB11 Campus Carry House Floor Debate 5/26/15
Posted: Tue May 26, 2015 2:47 pm
by Jasonw560
Charles L. Cotton wrote:So much for Straus' promise to get SB11 to the House Floor for debate and voting. I want to see the House Journal when it's published to see what Republicans voted against the motion to suspend the rules.
Chas.
What does this say about Patrick getting this promise from Strauss, with Strausses fingers crossed behind his back?
I guess this doesn't bode well for HB 910, either. And I have another non-gun related bill in the Senate I would personally like to see passed. But the posturing of one Senator may kill all chances of that one, too.
Re: SB11 Campus Carry House Floor Debate 5/26/15
Posted: Tue May 26, 2015 2:47 pm
by Ruark
I must say, all that time they spent the first week on those honors and recognitions (that everybody ignored) would come in handy right about now.....
Re: SB11 Campus Carry House Floor Debate 5/26/15
Posted: Tue May 26, 2015 2:47 pm
by KC5AV
TXBO wrote:"We have met the enemy, and he is STRAUS."
Re: SB11 Campus Carry House Floor Debate 5/26/15
Posted: Tue May 26, 2015 2:48 pm
by Glockster
The more that I watch, the more that I believe that I would support a law which required every voter to have to watch this nonsense. If every voter had to see the stuff that happens, perhaps we'd then get elected officials who willingly do their jobs.