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It is all part of Barack Hussein Obama's mission to destroy Western civilization and trample on our values. Here is further proof:

http://lidblog.com/obamas-appoints-anti ... -be-proud/

Feed&Guns wrote:I think this is another moon landing. Not sure the motivation, but clearly much of this is faked. Want proof?

1. They said the shooter had a muslim name. Islam is the religion of peace. No muslim would do this. Didn't happen.
2. News reports said they used AKs. 10+ round mags are illegal in California. Couldn't have had AKs.
3. CA has strict gun laws. We all know strict gun laws save lives. Ergo, something like this couldn't have happened in CA. Likewise, France has extremely strict gun laws and we all know gun violence is inversely proportional to the amount of gun laws. More gun laws = fewer gun deaths.
4. Donald Trump, Fox, and the GOP are notorious for fabricating stories to make democrats look bad such as deleting Hillary's emails, tricking Obama into calling ISIS the JV, etc. Anyone seen Bush recently? Maybe we can just blame him.
5. ISIS is contained.

Keep watching. This story will unravel.

Well said

We all know that the above statements are 100%. Especially #3. Just like I blame my overweight 25lbs on my many spoons and forks.

Husband US born Muslim. Wife Pakistan born Muslim. Both radicalized within the past 2 years in Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia has it's dirty fingers in just about every terrorist act on the planet. Just more "workplace violence."

VMI77 wrote:Husband US born Muslim. Wife Pakistan born Muslim. Both radicalized within the past 2 years in Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia has it's dirty fingers in just about every terrorist act on the planet. Just more "workplace violence."

Right. And in the aftermath of the atrocities wrought by this Islamic Terrorist Sleeper cell, our President wants to disarm us. Impeach him now!

VMI77 wrote:Husband US born Muslim. Wife Pakistan born Muslim. Both radicalized within the past 2 years in Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia has it's dirty fingers in just about every terrorist act on the planet. Just more "workplace violence."

Yep..... the birthplace and on-going stronghold of Wahhabi Islam, which is the father of Al Qaeda and other terrorists groups.

The killers wore Go-Pro cameras during their assault, so this was PLANNED, not just "workplace violence": http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/12 ... -massacre/

Dropped their baby off at Grandma's on the way to their gig: http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/san-be ... ma-n473261

Suspicious neighbor didn't report their actions prior to assault because he didn't want to be accused of racism, but saw a half dozen middle eastern-appearing men leaving the apartment before the attack: http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2015/12/ ... ed-farook/

Isis celebrates with #America_Burning hashtag: http://www.vocativ.com/news/256909/isis ... a-burning/

On NPR this morning, one of the people they interviewed said they used AR15 style rifles (DPMS and S&W) and had 2 pistols (S&W and Lama?). He also made the comment that the man had left the party and went home and got his wife and the other person and returned to the scene.

As to the gun grabbers, maybe if California didn't have such stupid gun laws, there might have been a couple of CHL holders in that room. At least the toll might not have been so high.

Gabbie Gifords husband was on the news spouting the usual anti-gun rhetoric. Universal background checks, blah, blah, blah. He said there has been over 300 "mass shootings" in the US this year. What constitutes "mass", more than 1? The distortions and lies will flood out now.

I feel out of touch. I spent most of the day with my wife on a date and didn't actually see what happened until I was at the Galleria(mall in Houston) and she was trying on shoes. I saw it on a tv and my jaw dropped, I felt secure knowing I had my g19 on my side and I was in close proximity to my wife.

This world is falling off the deep end FAST and our government isn't doing much to right it, except point fingers and telling lies.

The Annoyed Man wrote:

VMI77 wrote:Husband US born Muslim. Wife Pakistan born Muslim. Both radicalized within the past 2 years in Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia has it's dirty fingers in just about every terrorist act on the planet. Just more "workplace violence."

Yep..... the birthplace and on-going stronghold of Wahhabi Islam, which is the father of Al Qaeda and other terrorists groups.

The killers wore Go-Pro cameras during their assault, so this was PLANNED, not just "workplace violence": http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/12 ... -massacre/

Dropped their baby off at Grandma's on the way to their gig: http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/san-be ... ma-n473261

Suspicious neighbor didn't report their actions prior to assault because he didn't want to be accused of racism, but saw a half dozen middle eastern-appearing men leaving the apartment before the attack: http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2015/12/ ... ed-farook/

Isis celebrates with #America_Burning hashtag: http://www.vocativ.com/news/256909/isis ... a-burning/

What a better way to plan a terrorist attack than to do it at work? You know the security, layout, people and timing of events to cause the most damage. To call it anything other than terrorism in this case is just crazy propaganda.

LSUTiger wrote:

What a better way to plan a terrorist attack than to do it at work? You know the security, layout, people and timing of events to cause the most damage. To call it anything other than terrorism in this case is just crazy propaganda.

Absolutely correct and this is an ISIS tactic for western countries. So-called "inside jobs" are more efficient in terms of time required and damage inflicted.

Chas.

The Annoyed Man wrote:The killers wore Go-Pro cameras during their assault, so this was PLANNED, not just "workplace violence": http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/12 ... -massacre/

No videos or any camera of sort was found on the killers. [update as of noon on 12/3/2015]

More questions:
1) After the initial shooting why there was no other targets when they had the opportunity to do so?
2) Why it took 4-hrs to locate the suspects
3) In the next 4-hrs why the killers went home, stayed there, and did not went on other targets when they had the opportunity to do so.
4) Why they went home and did not went into hiding. They had 4-hrs lead time.
5) Did they have any support and by who?

WOW
i am so happy to read others are having the same SANE thought process. It obvious that this tragedy is heartbreaking in feelings we all share for the victims and their families.

I was thinking the same thing, about chl holders and if one or two were there armed, would it have been a different result? Like to think yes.

I couldnt find out about the story the male shooter(terrorist) was an employee that had been on baby leave for 6 months, then comes to a "christmas" party for the employees, maybe it was upsetting becasue it was a Holiday party with christian theme?


really sad potus this morning paraded down the lane of bodies to say we need more legislation...really !!
pipe bombs are not something you buy at gander mountain or a, dare i say gun show.

not to be insensitive, but maybe we need a ban on extremist Islam...right it worked for high capacity magazines and so called assault type rifles.
cair coming out to play damage control and attempted to taint the witnesses is unbelievable, you could see the wheels spinning like Debbie Wassermann Schultz

then harry ried, telling lawmakers they fear nra more ....OMG

Beiruty wrote:

The Annoyed Man wrote:The killers wore Go-Pro cameras during their assault, so this was PLANNED, not just "workplace violence": http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/12 ... -massacre/

1) The videos was upload to server somewhere in the world.
2) ISIS will feast on making 100 versions of this video for their propaganda

More questions:
1) After the initial shooting why there was no other targets when they had the opportunity to do so?
2) Why it took 4-hrs to locate the suspects
3) In the next 4-hrs why the killers went home, stayed there, and did not went on other targets when they had the opportunity to do so.
4) Why they went home and did not went into hiding. They had 4-hrs lead time.
5) Did they have any support and by who?

All good questions. Time will tell.

doncb wrote:On NPR this morning, one of the people they interviewed said they used AR15 style rifles (DPMS and S&W) and had 2 pistols (S&W and Lama?). He also made the comment that the man had left the party and went home and got his wife and the other person and returned to the scene.

As to the gun grabbers, maybe if California didn't have such stupid gun laws, there might have been a couple of CHL holders in that room. At least the toll might not have been so high.

Gabbie Gifords husband was on the news spouting the usual anti-gun rhetoric. Universal background checks, blah, blah, blah. He said there has been over 300 "mass shootings" in the US this year. What constitutes "mass", more than 1? The distortions and lies will flood out now.

This is something new that they've come up with. A guy on Reddit put together an Excel spreadsheet. He defined mass shooting as "any time 4 or more people are shot". The FBI definition is much narrower than that. It has to be at least four killed, not gang related, not domestic violence, not crime related (like a robbery gone bad.)

With the new definition he came up with 352 mass shootings in 2015 (versus 30 for the FBI) and how anti-gun nuts are touting that to the rooftops. Now the news media has picked up on it, and it's growing like wildfire.

I downloaded the spreadsheet and glanced at it last night. The first two were a fight at a bar and a domestic fight. Only one killed in both incidents. Definitely not mass shooting.

When people think about mass shootings they think about several things; random violence, public setting with a large crowd, automatic weapons.

Here's the site: http://shootingtracker.com/wiki/Mass_Shootings_in_2015

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/am-shock- ... 14943.html

"The suspects "had 1,400 .223 caliber rounds and 200 9 mm rounds on their person," Burguan said.

Farook and Malik were reportedly armed with four guns: two semiautomatic handguns and two .223-caliber assault rifles, all of which were purchased legally, according to Burguan.

When police searched the suspects' home, they found "several hundred” .22 long rifle rounds, "12 pipe bomb-type devices" in the garage, "hundreds of tools, many of which could be used to construct IEDs or pipe bombs," 2,000 9mm rounds, and 2,500 .223 rounds of ammunition. "

Yep, sounds like run of the mill work place violence to me.

yesterday or day before one of the stations was doing an article about "mass shootings" and was saying it was more than ONE! yep, more than ONE!