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Re: Word use that drives you up the wall!

Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 11:48 am
by puma guy
Being one myself I am always perplexed as to how many folk are referenced when some one says " a pair of twins". Is it two or four?

Re: Word use that drives you up the wall!

Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 1:34 pm
by RogueUSMC
puma guy wrote:Being one myself I am always perplexed as to how many folk are referenced when some one says " a pair of twins". Is it two or four?
Or whether they are drunk or sober (how many twins do you see?)

Re: Word use that drives you up the wall!

Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 1:42 pm
by TomsTXCHL
For me during football season it's that Troy Aikman he can't stop himself such that Joe Buck he has picked-up on it himself. I wonder if Troy Aikman he never went to grammar school fer cryan' out loud. Troy Aikman he makes my ears curl.

:p

Re: Word use that drives you up the wall!

Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 6:30 pm
by WildBill
puma guy wrote:Being one myself I am always perplexed as to how many folk are referenced when some one says " a pair of twins". Is it two or four?
What about a pair of pants, scissors or pliers? ;-)

Re: Word use that drives you up the wall!

Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 8:39 pm
by Wolverine
While we're on this subject, I always wondered if one of them dies, is the other still a twin?

Re: Word use that drives you up the wall!

Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 11:47 pm
by Oldgringo
WildBill wrote:
puma guy wrote:Being one myself I am always perplexed as to how many folk are referenced when some one says " a pair of twins". Is it two or four?
What about a pair of pants, scissors or pliers? ;-)
I've often wondered about that my own self. :roll:

Re: Word use that drives you up the wall!

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2014 2:53 am
by Dadtodabone
Oldgringo wrote:
WildBill wrote:
puma guy wrote:Being one myself I am always perplexed as to how many folk are referenced when some one says " a pair of twins". Is it two or four?
What about a pair of pants, scissors or pliers? ;-)
I've often wondered about that my own self. :roll:
Pants/Trousers evolved from fitted stockings, pantaloons/trews, that were made and donned individually. Long tunics would cover the join for warmth and modesty's sake.
Parenthetically it was the shortening of the tunic during the Medieval Warm Period, that led to the creation of the codpiece which joined the pairs.
A modern iteration of the codpiece can be found in the U.S. Navy enlisted mans trousers.
http://www.public.navy.mil/bupers-npc/s ... 01_92.aspx

Instruments and tools which feature identical limbs which are joined have always been referred to in the plural. Calipers, tweezers, scissors, pliers. Scissors is a plural noun; thus "a scissors" would be wrong. To refer indefinitely to one unit, one should always use pair, as in "a pair of scissors". With the definite article the and the plural adjectives these and those, pair does not have to be used: those scissors are terrible, try these scissors, the scissors are bad, etc.

Re: Word use that drives you up the wall!

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2014 2:59 am
by Dadtodabone
Wolverine wrote:While we're on this subject, I always wondered if one of them dies, is the other still a twin?
Yes, though referred to as "remaining" or "twinless".

Re: Word use that drives you up the wall!

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2014 8:50 am
by RogueUSMC
Dadtodabone wrote:
Oldgringo wrote:
WildBill wrote:
puma guy wrote:Being one myself I am always perplexed as to how many folk are referenced when some one says " a pair of twins". Is it two or four?
What about a pair of pants, scissors or pliers? ;-)
I've often wondered about that my own self. :roll:
Pants/Trousers evolved from fitted stockings, pantaloons/trews, that were made and donned individually. Long tunics would cover the join for warmth and modesty's sake.
Parenthetically it was the shortening of the tunic during the Medieval Warm Period, that led to the creation of the codpiece which joined the pairs.
A modern iteration of the codpiece can be found in the U.S. Navy enlisted mans trousers.
http://www.public.navy.mil/bupers-npc/s ... 01_92.aspx

Instruments and tools which feature identical limbs which are joined have always been referred to in the plural. Calipers, tweezers, scissors, pliers. Scissors is a plural noun; thus "a scissors" would be wrong. To refer indefinitely to one unit, one should always use pair, as in "a pair of scissors". With the definite article the and the plural adjectives these and those, pair does not have to be used: those scissors are terrible, try these scissors, the scissors are bad, etc.
Wow...you spent time on this...lol

Re: Word use that drives you up the wall!

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2014 12:32 pm
by puma guy
Dadtodabone wrote:
Wolverine wrote:While we're on this subject, I always wondered if one of them dies, is the other still a twin?
Yes, though referred to as "remaining" or "twinless".
Since my brother was born 15 minutes before me he always refers to me as the twin and himself as the original. :lol:

Re: Word use that drives you up the wall!

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2014 10:33 pm
by Dadtodabone
RogueUSMC wrote: Wow...you spent time on this...lol
5-10 minutes? I'm a frustrated History major with a captive audience and a very good memory.

Re: Word use that drives you up the wall!

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2014 10:35 pm
by Dadtodabone
puma guy wrote:
Dadtodabone wrote:
Wolverine wrote:While we're on this subject, I always wondered if one of them dies, is the other still a twin?
Yes, though referred to as "remaining" or "twinless".
Since my brother was born 15 minutes before me he always refers to me as the twin and himself as the original. :lol:
That is funny! I've never heard that before!

Re: Word use that drives you up the wall!

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 10:39 pm
by RogueUSMC
Dadtodabone wrote:
RogueUSMC wrote: Wow...you spent time on this...lol
5-10 minutes? I'm a frustrated History major with a captive audience and a very good memory.
Is there any other kind of history major?

Re: Word use that drives you up the wall!

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 12:23 pm
by fickman
This one isn't based on misuse of a term, but I'll admit that I hate the word "pistol". I never use it. I cringe when I hear it. I can't explain further.

Gun.
Handgun.
Firearm.
Revolver.
Wheelgun.
Rifle.
Carbine.
Shotgun.
Scattergun.
Big iron.
Heat (I won't use it, but go ahead if you must).
Gat (Same as above).
Piece.
etc., etc., etc.

Use any synonym, euphemism, or colloquialism that you want and I'll go right along. Say "pistol" and I'll look like I just ate a lemon.

Re: Word use that drives you up the wall!

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 4:50 pm
by Skiprr
fickman wrote:This one isn't based on misuse of a term, but I'll admit that I hate the word "pistol". I never use it. I cringe when I hear it. I can't explain further.
Hm. I know you said you can't explain further, but this one's interesting. The use of the term "pistol" for a handheld firearm predates "revolver" by over 250 years. When Samuel Colt received his patent in 1836 for an innovative new handgun, he deemed it the "revolving-cylinder pistol."

Per the Gun Control Act (18 U.S.C., §921(A)(29) and 27 CFR §478.11):
The term "Pistol" means a weapon originally designed, made, and intended to fire a projectile (bullet) from one or more barrels when held in one hand, and having:
  • a chamber(s) as an integral part(s) of, or permanently aligned with, the bore(s);
  • and a short stock designed to be gripped by one hand at an angle to and extending below the line of the bore(s).
Though the definition has morphed since its first use in 1570, the term "pistol" seems still to serve a purpose.