Re: Had my first "incident" since getting my card a decade ago
Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 9:48 pm
Also wanting an update!sjfcontrol wrote:Any update on this situation?
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Re: Had my first "incident" since getting my card a decade ago
Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 11:51 am
One thing to consider......
I am over 50...very good shape...been in many street fights in my early days prior to reaching a level of maturity that allowed me to avoid most confrontations.....but my point to consider is this...
In my experiance of street fighting.....I have been on the receiving end and have delivered the "lucky punch"....
I will avoid any and all physical confrontations when I am carrying....I dont care if my opponent is a munchkin....he gets one wildly thrown lucky punch and I am out for a second or two...and he has my gun....
If somebody acts like or verbally tells me they are going to get violent I will tell them in no uncertain terms I am armed. I will further place myself in the "pre-draw" position.....No Clint Eastwood "make my day" comments....just I am armed and ready.
Next move is up to him. If I draw I will use it. I will not draw and threaten. I will draw and fire.
I will not fist fight anybody nor wrestle around with anybody when I am armed.
I am over 50...very good shape...been in many street fights in my early days prior to reaching a level of maturity that allowed me to avoid most confrontations.....but my point to consider is this...
In my experiance of street fighting.....I have been on the receiving end and have delivered the "lucky punch"....
I will avoid any and all physical confrontations when I am carrying....I dont care if my opponent is a munchkin....he gets one wildly thrown lucky punch and I am out for a second or two...and he has my gun....
If somebody acts like or verbally tells me they are going to get violent I will tell them in no uncertain terms I am armed. I will further place myself in the "pre-draw" position.....No Clint Eastwood "make my day" comments....just I am armed and ready.
Next move is up to him. If I draw I will use it. I will not draw and threaten. I will draw and fire.
I will not fist fight anybody nor wrestle around with anybody when I am armed.
Re: Had my first "incident" since getting my card a decade ago
Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:08 pm
Well put Sarge! I agree completely.
Re: Had my first "incident" since getting my card a decade ago
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 3:19 pm
sorry for the delay in updating. I don't guess I have settings correct to get email notification when this post is updated.
I will go back and re-read the thread real quick and add updates from where things left off. LOTS of activity (legal)
I will go back and re-read the thread real quick and add updates from where things left off. LOTS of activity (legal)
Re: Had my first "incident" since getting my card a decade ago
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 3:56 pm
ok.....here are the Cliff Notes on everything since my last reply.
He was originally charged with three counts of harassment and one count of assault. He had numerous delays to his trial date due to his antics in court. On one occasion he went into the bathroom before being called to the bench, took numerous "hits" off of an inhaler and bit a hole in the side of his mouth. As he approached the bench....he started spitting up blood everywhere. He was also experiencing tachycardia due to the inhaler OD. Well.....this got him a ride to the hospital, and kept him out of jail. He did things like this several times, but this gives ya some insight to his SOP.
During the time he was waiting for trial he and his new wife had numerous domestic disputes. Several of these ended with local PD being called. His new wife "broke rank" and contacted us seeking help, and to inform us of his behavior. She informed us that he had made numerous comments about killing me, my wife, and the daughter. Several times he had walked around their apartment with a loaded marlin 336 threatening to "Go over there and take them to hell with me!!". Well.... contacted Local PD and they paid him a visit. In short order he had bought himself a Violation of Protective Order charge to go with the rest of them.
Time passes and we finally get to court. We met with the DA at length and came to an agreement. PROBATION. Before you scoff at the idea...there was sound reasoning behind the decision. History: He has had some medical issues in the past (cancer). He has had a large tumor removed from one side of his neck and has severe scarring as a result. He also has virtually no protection around the nerve bundles on that side of his neck. This trauma, and the resulting potential for harm are his basis for his "medical antics" that he uses with masterful skill to avoid detention. Our County Jail is NOT set up to offer him the medical treatment he would need IF something happened, nor are they equipped to offer him segregation in an effort to prevent him from being permanently injured by other inmates. Whether he is in NEED of medical attention or not, the MUST address his needs and offer him treatment if needed. The DA was worried that, if confined the County facility that he would end up faking a medical emergency and getting a medical release with "time served". This could put him on the street again in days....with a clean slate. SO....we decided to capitalize on his inability to live within the bounds of the law by giving him probation. Three of them to be exact. 24 months each. All are very comprehensive and are tied to the Protective Orders already in place. The very same PO's that he has been unable to abide by since they were drafted!! The thinking behind this is, WHEN (not if...lol) he violates, the DA will have enough to push for a State Jail Felony and put him in the TDC system. TDC has facilities that are well equipped to handle ANY medical issue he may have....and all without having to let him out from behind the fence!!!
He was more than happy to agree to the probation! He walked around for weeks crowing about how he "got off the hook" cause we didn't have enough evidence to get him thrown in jail. Little does he know.
Most recently.....he violated the P.O. and thus his 3 probations, by attempting to contact the daughter (facebook) without our knowledge or consent. We filed with FPD and they are passing it on to the DA for processing.
I have been in constant contact with the DA, the Adult Supervision Office, and Local PD's in both Frisco and Denton. It's a crying shame to be on a first name basis with all these people because of this crap, but it is also a lifesaver!! He is about to get the BIG HAMMER
dropped on his head, and the great thing is....HE IS OBLIVIOUS TO IT!!
When he goes back before the Judge this time, not only will he get to explain his actions toward us, but we have been told that since the revocation hearing is not a "trial" regular Rules of Evidence do not apply and we can offer information and testimony from events with his new wife that involved us. Part of this involves her moving out of state to escape him after he found out she had spoken to us. She filed, and was granted a protective order (grounds: Domestic Violence) and left to Oklahoma, since he was forbidden from leaving TX by his probation. She has since filed for divorce.
well...thats it in a nutshell....for now. STAY TUNED
He was originally charged with three counts of harassment and one count of assault. He had numerous delays to his trial date due to his antics in court. On one occasion he went into the bathroom before being called to the bench, took numerous "hits" off of an inhaler and bit a hole in the side of his mouth. As he approached the bench....he started spitting up blood everywhere. He was also experiencing tachycardia due to the inhaler OD. Well.....this got him a ride to the hospital, and kept him out of jail. He did things like this several times, but this gives ya some insight to his SOP.
During the time he was waiting for trial he and his new wife had numerous domestic disputes. Several of these ended with local PD being called. His new wife "broke rank" and contacted us seeking help, and to inform us of his behavior. She informed us that he had made numerous comments about killing me, my wife, and the daughter. Several times he had walked around their apartment with a loaded marlin 336 threatening to "Go over there and take them to hell with me!!". Well.... contacted Local PD and they paid him a visit. In short order he had bought himself a Violation of Protective Order charge to go with the rest of them.
Time passes and we finally get to court. We met with the DA at length and came to an agreement. PROBATION. Before you scoff at the idea...there was sound reasoning behind the decision. History: He has had some medical issues in the past (cancer). He has had a large tumor removed from one side of his neck and has severe scarring as a result. He also has virtually no protection around the nerve bundles on that side of his neck. This trauma, and the resulting potential for harm are his basis for his "medical antics" that he uses with masterful skill to avoid detention. Our County Jail is NOT set up to offer him the medical treatment he would need IF something happened, nor are they equipped to offer him segregation in an effort to prevent him from being permanently injured by other inmates. Whether he is in NEED of medical attention or not, the MUST address his needs and offer him treatment if needed. The DA was worried that, if confined the County facility that he would end up faking a medical emergency and getting a medical release with "time served". This could put him on the street again in days....with a clean slate. SO....we decided to capitalize on his inability to live within the bounds of the law by giving him probation. Three of them to be exact. 24 months each. All are very comprehensive and are tied to the Protective Orders already in place. The very same PO's that he has been unable to abide by since they were drafted!! The thinking behind this is, WHEN (not if...lol) he violates, the DA will have enough to push for a State Jail Felony and put him in the TDC system. TDC has facilities that are well equipped to handle ANY medical issue he may have....and all without having to let him out from behind the fence!!!
He was more than happy to agree to the probation! He walked around for weeks crowing about how he "got off the hook" cause we didn't have enough evidence to get him thrown in jail. Little does he know.
Most recently.....he violated the P.O. and thus his 3 probations, by attempting to contact the daughter (facebook) without our knowledge or consent. We filed with FPD and they are passing it on to the DA for processing.
I have been in constant contact with the DA, the Adult Supervision Office, and Local PD's in both Frisco and Denton. It's a crying shame to be on a first name basis with all these people because of this crap, but it is also a lifesaver!! He is about to get the BIG HAMMER
dropped on his head, and the great thing is....HE IS OBLIVIOUS TO IT!!When he goes back before the Judge this time, not only will he get to explain his actions toward us, but we have been told that since the revocation hearing is not a "trial" regular Rules of Evidence do not apply and we can offer information and testimony from events with his new wife that involved us. Part of this involves her moving out of state to escape him after he found out she had spoken to us. She filed, and was granted a protective order (grounds: Domestic Violence) and left to Oklahoma, since he was forbidden from leaving TX by his probation. She has since filed for divorce.
well...thats it in a nutshell....for now. STAY TUNED
Re: Had my first "incident" since getting my card a decade ago
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 4:15 pm
Sarge, I think I have a video of you!The Sarge wrote:One thing to consider......
I am over 50...very good shape...been in many street fights in my early days prior to reaching a level of maturity that allowed me to avoid most confrontations.....but my point to consider is this...
In my experiance of street fighting.....I have been on the receiving end and have delivered the "lucky punch"....
http://www.annoyedman.com/media/videos/ ... eMarine.wm
Re: Had my first "incident" since getting my card a decade ago
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 4:48 pm
OH!!!! That was PRICELESS!!!!!The Annoyed Man wrote:Sarge, I think I have a video of you!The Sarge wrote:One thing to consider......
I am over 50...very good shape...been in many street fights in my early days prior to reaching a level of maturity that allowed me to avoid most confrontations.....but my point to consider is this...
In my experiance of street fighting.....I have been on the receiving end and have delivered the "lucky punch"....
http://www.annoyedman.com/media/videos/ ... eMarine.wm
Re: Had my first "incident" since getting my card a decade ago
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 5:56 pm
Priceless indeed! Brings a new meaning to the words "just wait for it". 
Re: Had my first "incident" since getting my card a decade ago
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 5:58 pm
Humanphibian, thank you for the update. It is appreciated, and I feel badly for you that you have been to heck and back over this. God bless you and yours. 
Re: Had my first "incident" since getting my card a decade ago
Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 6:38 pm
The Sarge wrote
"If I draw I will use it. I will not draw and threaten. I will draw and fire."
I know (intellectually) that is the correct action to take.
But I wonder (emotionally) if I will regret it later.
Even though it may never happen, my conscience is already
asking me if there is something else I can do. Is there
another choice I could make.
Hoot
"If I draw I will use it. I will not draw and threaten. I will draw and fire."
I know (intellectually) that is the correct action to take.
But I wonder (emotionally) if I will regret it later.
Even though it may never happen, my conscience is already
asking me if there is something else I can do. Is there
another choice I could make.
Hoot