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What does that one commercial say, "What happens in Vegas...stays in Vegas"? You reckon that they've heard it so often that they believe it?Charles L. Cotton wrote:I sure hope nothing "happened" to the video, but his comment sure makes me worry.
Chas.
Yeah, but with that purse snatching video the police wanted the public's help. I don't think they want any help with this one unless it supports their version.seniorshooteress wrote:I am a firm believer that MOST LEO are good decent people and that sometimes stuff happens that causes them to react in a way they wouldn't normally act. I respect LEO but in this instance I feel something went terribly wrong and one of these officers involved in this decided to make this terrible accident, justified. So only in movies or on TV do some police try to cover up their mistakes? To protect a career/pension/reputation, stay out of jail or some other reason.. There was utter chaos so who was going to notice if a gun were thrown on the ground. I know most CHL's have BUG's but which do you present 1st? The one in your waistband or your BUG? This man had a gun STILL in his waistband. So maybe he had a double holster rig with 2 guns on his hip? I, too, am very interested to see if videos will be available and wondering if anyone in the crowd videoed it with cell phone or something. (The purse snatching at WalMart was online for all to see a day after the incident and it was from the stores survalence camera) If so, they may be scared to let anyone know they have it depending on what it depects as the actual happening. Normally things like this make it to YouTube before it makes it to the media. We all have our opinions and this is mine.
I've noticed that also.seniorshooteress wrote:Speaking of commercials, has anyone seen anything about this on tv or heard about it on the radio? I haven't and hubs listens to radio to and from work and he knew nothing about it. Seems like the only place giving this story any 'air' time is the internet.
Whenever mistakes are made, even when the results are tragic, the absolute worst thing that can be done is to try to cover them up. In the Nevada situation with so many eyewitnesses, plentiful physical evidence, and a very good likelihood that some type of video was recorded by someone, the chances of successfully "revising" reality is zero.seniorshooteress wrote:I am a firm believer that MOST LEO are good decent people and that sometimes stuff happens that causes them to react in a way they wouldn't normally act. I respect LEO but in this instance I feel something went terribly wrong and one of these officers involved in this decided to make this terrible accident, justified. So only in movies or on TV do some police try to cover up their mistakes? To protect a career/pension/reputation, stay out of jail or some other reason.. There was utter chaos so who was going to notice if a gun were thrown on the ground. I know most CHL's have BUG's but which do you present 1st? The one in your waistband or your BUG? This man had a gun STILL in his waistband. So maybe he had a double holster rig with 2 guns on his hip? I, too, am very interested to see if videos will be available and wondering if anyone in the crowd videoed it with cell phone or something. (The purse snatching at WalMart was online for all to see a day after the incident and it was from the stores survalence camera) If so, they may be scared to let anyone know they have it depending on what it depects as the actual happening. Normally things like this make it to YouTube before it makes it to the media. We all have our opinions and this is mine.
http://www.leg.state.nv.us/nrs/NRS-202.htmlf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;NRS 202.3673 Permittee authorized to carry concealed firearm while on premises of public building; exceptions; penalty.
1. Except as otherwise provided in subsections 2 and 3, a permittee may carry a concealed firearm while the permittee is on the premises of any public building.
2. A permittee shall not carry a concealed firearm while the permittee is on the premises of a public building that is located on the property of a public airport.
3. A permittee shall not carry a concealed firearm while the permittee is on the premises of:
(a) A public building that is located on the property of a public school or a child care facility or the property of the Nevada System of Higher Education, unless the permittee has obtained written permission to carry a concealed firearm while he or she is on the premises of the public building pursuant to subparagraph (3) of paragraph (a) of subsection 3 of NRS 202.265.
(b) A public building that has a metal detector at each public entrance or a sign posted at each public entrance indicating that no firearms are allowed in the building, unless the permittee is not prohibited from carrying a concealed firearm while he or she is on the premises of the public building pursuant to subsection 4.
4. The provisions of paragraph (b) of subsection 3 do not prohibit:
(a) A permittee who is a judge from carrying a concealed firearm in the courthouse or courtroom in which the judge presides or from authorizing a permittee to carry a concealed firearm while in the courtroom of the judge and while traveling to and from the courtroom of the judge.
(b) A permittee who is a prosecuting attorney of an agency or political subdivision of the United States or of this State from carrying a concealed firearm while he or she is on the premises of a public building.
(c) A permittee who is employed in the public building from carrying a concealed firearm while he or she is on the premises of the public building.
(d) A permittee from carrying a concealed firearm while he or she is on the premises of the public building if the permittee has received written permission from the person in control of the public building to carry a concealed firearm while the permittee is on the premises of the public building.
5. A person who violates subsection 2 or 3 is guilty of a misdemeanor.
6. As used in this section:
(a) “Child care facility” has the meaning ascribed to it in paragraph (a) of subsection 5 of NRS 202.265.
(b) “Public building” means any building or office space occupied by:
(1) Any component of the Nevada System of Higher Education and used for any purpose related to the System; or
(2) The Federal Government, the State of Nevada or any county, city, school district or other political subdivision of the State of Nevada and used for any public purpose.
Ê If only part of the building is occupied by an entity described in this subsection, the term means only that portion of the building which is so occupied.
(Added to NRS by 1995, 2725; A 1997, 63; 1999, 2767; 2007, 1914)
And I don't understand this at all.Detectives hope to view surveillance video of the incident, but have sent it for forensic examination because of a technical issue with Costco's recording equipment. It's still unclear if the incident was even captured on video or if the equipment was working properly the day of the shooting.
Release the tapes! Holding on to them only makes it worse for the PD. It's bad enough that Erik is dead. Giving the appearance of a coverup fans the flames.Police have also refused to release the 911 tapes made during the incident.
Thanks baldeagle. I didn't see anything there either and since it seems so simple compared to Texas law, figured I just missed it. Some have implied that he was breaking the law carrying inside Costco. I found this site that seems to imply Las Vegas law is different from Nevada law.I don't see anything in Nevada law prohibiting carry in private businesses like Costco.
Unless they had a sign stating no firearms. Any no-gun sign is valid in Nevada (Section 3 (b))PeteCamp wrote:Thanks baldeagle. I didn't see anything there either and since it seems so simple compared to Texas law, figured I just missed it. Some have implied that he was breaking the law carrying inside Costco. I found this site that seems to imply Las Vegas law is different from Nevada law.I don't see anything in Nevada law prohibiting carry in private businesses like Costco.
http://www.shouselaw.com/nevada/concealed-weapon.html#3
(see the very last bullet)
This may be one of those laws the Legislature took aim at in 2007. In any event, even trespassing is a misdemeanor. Thanks again.
I spent 20 years as an LEO and retired as a captain in a 200 officer agency.baldeagle wrote:Excaliber, are you an LEO? (This is not meant as derogatory.) I get the impression that you are. I ask, because I have some questions for you, if you are.