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Re: Las Vegas Mandalay Bay Active Shooter

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 5:40 pm
by wheelgun1958

Re: Las Vegas Mandalay Bay Active Shooter

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 5:41 pm
by philip964
>9:10 reports shooter on 15th floor
>18:10 "shots fired on 29 and 32nd levels"
>18:25 "we are coming out on 32nd floor"
>18:45 "we have a security officer shot in the leg on the 32nd floor"
>19:15 "he shot down the hallway and hit a security guard" (32nd floor)
>19:35 "we'll need the 29th floor, it sounds like its confirmed there are at least 2 shooters with fully automatic weapons"
>26:30 "about 3 minutes ago a black unknown truck (unidentified) ripped out of the parking lot east of Excalibur heading south to the Delano, it was reported by several people and witnessed by me, keep an eye on it"
>36:10 "He's over in Tropicana/Motel 6, older white male with fatigues and a black bag, pedestrians say he came from the area of the shooting, he went into the motor
>37:15 "theres one 'WMA' in black fatigues and a white RV off of Koval and Tropicana, south of"
>41:30 (at Mandalay Bay) "nothing has been evac'd"
>43:05 "...at Reno and Tropicana we might have a possible... I need more units"
>47:10 "...confirming the Mandalay Bay, and Alibaba and Guille's(?) are the two shooting locations, do we have a third?"

Highlights from police radio transcripts. Did you know a security guard was shot on the 32nd floor?

Re: Las Vegas Mandalay Bay Active Shooter

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 6:07 pm
by bblhd672
philip964 wrote:>9:10 reports shooter on 15th floor
>18:10 "shots fired on 29 and 32nd levels"
>18:25 "we are coming out on 32nd floor"
>18:45 "we have a security officer shot in the leg on the 32nd floor"
>19:15 "he shot down the hallway and hit a security guard" (32nd floor)
>19:35 "we'll need the 29th floor, it sounds like its confirmed there are at least 2 shooters with fully automatic weapons"
>26:30 "about 3 minutes ago a black unknown truck (unidentified) ripped out of the parking lot east of Excalibur heading south to the Delano, it was reported by several people and witnessed by me, keep an eye on it"
>36:10 "He's over in Tropicana/Motel 6, older white male with fatigues and a black bag, pedestrians say he came from the area of the shooting, he went into the motor
>37:15 "theres one 'WMA' in black fatigues and a white RV off of Koval and Tropicana, south of"
>41:30 (at Mandalay Bay) "nothing has been evac'd"
>43:05 "...at Reno and Tropicana we might have a possible... I need more units"
>47:10 "...confirming the Mandalay Bay, and Alibaba and Guille's(?) are the two shooting locations, do we have a third?"

Highlights from police radio transcripts. Did you know a security guard was shot on the 32nd floor?
Source?

Re: Las Vegas Mandalay Bay Active Shooter

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 6:36 pm
by jmra
Per press conference on fox, sheriff estimated shots were 500 yards. Doesn’t look like external modification to full auto. Either internal modification or manufactured full auto.
Timed several videos of M16s going thru a 30 round mag and compared to video of shooting. Appears to be 4 times the duration at what sounds like close to the same rate suggesting 120+ rounds of continuous fire. Of course the rate could be off due to sound bouncing off side of buildings.

Re: Las Vegas Mandalay Bay Active Shooter

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 6:40 pm
by Jnazee
His brother said he had no political affiliation and no religious affiliation. Wouldn't someone who didn't know who God really is, be an easy convert? And what country is his girlfriend in?

Re: Las Vegas Mandalay Bay Active Shooter

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 6:43 pm
by jmra
Jnazee wrote:His brother said he had no political affiliation and no religious affiliation. Wouldn't someone who didn't know who God really is, be an easy convert? And what country is his girlfriend in?
I believe the sheriff said she was in Japan during the news conference.

Re: Las Vegas Mandalay Bay Active Shooter

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 7:04 pm
by jmra
Sheriff also stated that the explosives found in the home was tannerite.

Re: Las Vegas Mandalay Bay Active Shooter

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 7:10 pm
by philip964
bblhd672 wrote:
philip964 wrote:>9:10 reports shooter on 15th floor
>18:10 "shots fired on 29 and 32nd levels"
>18:25 "we are coming out on 32nd floor"
>18:45 "we have a security officer shot in the leg on the 32nd floor"
>19:15 "he shot down the hallway and hit a security guard" (32nd floor)
>19:35 "we'll need the 29th floor, it sounds like its confirmed there are at least 2 shooters with fully automatic weapons"
>26:30 "about 3 minutes ago a black unknown truck (unidentified) ripped out of the parking lot east of Excalibur heading south to the Delano, it was reported by several people and witnessed by me, keep an eye on it"
>36:10 "He's over in Tropicana/Motel 6, older white male with fatigues and a black bag, pedestrians say he came from the area of the shooting, he went into the motor
>37:15 "theres one 'WMA' in black fatigues and a white RV off of Koval and Tropicana, south of"
>41:30 (at Mandalay Bay) "nothing has been evac'd"
>43:05 "...at Reno and Tropicana we might have a possible... I need more units"
>47:10 "...confirming the Mandalay Bay, and Alibaba and Guille's(?) are the two shooting locations, do we have a third?"

Highlights from police radio transcripts. Did you know a security guard was shot on the 32nd floor?
Source?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gpMrm1xUJ40

Re: Las Vegas Mandalay Bay Active Shooter

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 7:28 pm
by TreyHouston
philip964 wrote:Sure does not fit the background of a mass shooter.

His brother said he was a multimillionaire former accountant, turned real estate investor. Like to gamble was a high roller at the casino. So the room could have been comped.

What if he was abducted by persons unknown, because he had the room they needed.

They set up the cameras so they knew exactly when to fake his suicide. Afterwards went into adjoining room and slipped out in first responders uniforms.

This took a lot of planning, a lot of time. This wasn't luck. Some of this guys friends would have noticed some change in him. Snapping to do this does not account for all the time and preparation.
My money is on this.

Re: Las Vegas Mandalay Bay Active Shooter

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 8:09 pm
by flowrie
TreyHouston wrote:
philip964 wrote:Sure does not fit the background of a mass shooter.

His brother said he was a multimillionaire former accountant, turned real estate investor. Like to gamble was a high roller at the casino. So the room could have been comped.

What if he was abducted by persons unknown, because he had the room they needed.

They set up the cameras so they knew exactly when to fake his suicide. Afterwards went into adjoining room and slipped out in first responders uniforms.

This took a lot of planning, a lot of time. This wasn't luck. Some of this guys friends would have noticed some change in him. Snapping to do this does not account for all the time and preparation.
My money is on this.
I have my doubts.
He had weapons at other locations, was a loner for the most part, angry personality (according to reports).
Placing large gambling bets tells me he was looking for excitement.

I am thinking he was mentally ill and did this because he could or he was just bored with his life. Had money, houses, planes, but had an empty heart, a hole he could not fill with worldly things. Evil controlled him.
I am very sad for the victims and families, prayers for them.

Re: Las Vegas Mandalay Bay Active Shooter

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 8:11 pm
by CleverNickname
philip964 wrote: What if he was abducted by persons unknown, because he had the room they needed.

They set up the cameras so they knew exactly when to fake his suicide. Afterwards went into adjoining room and slipped out in first responders uniforms.

This took a lot of planning, a lot of time. This wasn't luck. Some of this guys friends would have noticed some change in him. Snapping to do this does not account for all the time and preparation.
What if outer space aliens abducted him and surgically implanted bug in his brain so they controlled his mind, and then returned him to earth and caused him to commit the shooting? Obviously then the shooting will cause the government to disarm us. Once we're totally disarmed, we'll be powerless to oppose the coming invasion of little green men!!!!11eleven

I don't have any more proof for my theory than you do for yours, but mine's sexier, so I think mine wins.

Re: Las Vegas Mandalay Bay Active Shooter

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 8:22 pm
by TreyHouston
RUSSIA????

Re: Las Vegas Mandalay Bay Active Shooter

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 8:27 pm
by troglodyte
Greybeard wrote:More food for thought. 72 hour rule. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ORo87n ... e=youtu.be
:iagree:

I try to live by this but it is hard at times.

Re: Las Vegas Mandalay Bay Active Shooter

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 8:33 pm
by Lynyrd
troglodyte wrote:Fox News Link
The guns found included converted, fully automatic AR-15 style assault rifles with high capacity magazines.

Not sure what "converted" means but an interview I saw made it sound like it was a true fully automatic conversion and not a bump-fire. Then again the talking heads may not have known what they were talking about. Caveat lector.
According to this they found bump fire stocks.
A modified bump stock rifle was also found, which allows a gun to simulate rapid automatic gunfire. Law enforcement officials are still in the process of examining firearms to determine if they were capable of firing automatically.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/guns-loaded-hi ... d=50228093

Re: Las Vegas Mandalay Bay Active Shooter

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 9:59 pm
by Jnazee
Greybeard wrote:More food for thought. 72 hour rule. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ORo87n ... e=youtu.be
This is a very good. I do start out by praying, but I need to work on the waiting.