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Re: HB910 on House Calendar for 3rd Reading

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 4:56 pm
by The Wall
I'm wondering how long the Senate will sit on it.

Re: HB910 on House Calendar for 3rd Reading

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 4:56 pm
by CJD
The Wall wrote:I'm wondering how long the Senate will sit on it.
Hopefully not long. They didn't waste any time with SB17, hopefully they afford the same courtesy to HB910.

Re: HB910 on House Calendar for 3rd Reading

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 5:05 pm
by Charles L. Cotton
Pawpaw wrote:Could someone clarify this for me (Charles?)?

Wouldn't this amendment fail on Constitutional grounds?
Absolutely!

Chas.

Re: HB910 on House Calendar for 3rd Reading

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 5:07 pm
by Tracker
Charles L. Cotton wrote:
Pawpaw wrote:Could someone clarify this for me (Charles?)?

Wouldn't this amendment fail on Constitutional grounds?
Absolutely!

Chas.
and if it did would that open up killing the law in a state supreme court once the governor signed it?

Re: HB910 on House Calendar for 3rd Reading

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 5:09 pm
by Charles L. Cotton
bigity wrote:I'm not sure it was related, I think a runner was just bringing something over?
It was not relevant. That's how they announce passage of the other body's bills.

Chas.

Re: HB910 on House Calendar for 3rd Reading

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 5:13 pm
by Charles L. Cotton
Tracker wrote:
Charles L. Cotton wrote:
Pawpaw wrote:Could someone clarify this for me (Charles?)?

Wouldn't this amendment fail on Constitutional grounds?
Absolutely!

Chas.
and if it did would that open up killing the Bill in a state supreme court?
Probably not since the local opt-out provision could be separated from the rest of the law. Local opt-out provisions were DOA from the beginning and that was nothing more than grandstanding for voters in their districts.

Chas.

Re: HB910 on House Calendar for 3rd Reading

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 5:15 pm
by matefrio
Present, not voting - Mr. Speaker(C) ?

Re: HB910 on House Calendar for 3rd Reading

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 5:18 pm
by TrueFlog
Both of today's amendments are huge gains in my book -definitely worth waiting an extra day for. I have to say, though, I'm surprised Amendment 3 was approved. Charles's comments yesterday about Amendment 16 made me think that the House would be hostile towards an amendment like this. I'm also curious why it wasn't considered yesterday. Was it intentionally held back? Were there more absences by the opposition in the House today?

Re: HB910 on House Calendar for 3rd Reading

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 5:20 pm
by Charles L. Cotton
TrueFlog wrote:Both of today's amendments are huge gains in my book -definitely worth waiting an extra day for. I have to say, though, I'm surprised Amendment 3 was approved. Charles's comments yesterday on one of the amendments made me think that the House would be hostile towards an amendment like this. I'm also curious why it wasn't considered yesterday. Was it intentionally held back? Were there more absences by the opposition in the House today?
Rep. Dutton came up with this on his own. You will note that it was not even read, much less discussed. That's all I'll say for now.

Chas.

Re: HB910 on House Calendar for 3rd Reading

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 5:21 pm
by Tracker
Charles L. Cotton wrote:
Tracker wrote:
Charles L. Cotton wrote:
Pawpaw wrote:Could someone clarify this for me (Charles?)?

Wouldn't this amendment fail on Constitutional grounds?
Absolutely!

Chas.
and if it did would that open up killing the Bill in a state supreme court?
Probably not since the local opt-out provision could be separated from the rest of the law. Local opt-out provisions were DOA from the beginning and that was nothing more than grandstanding for voters in their districts.

Chas.
that's what I thought the luv fest grandstanding was for, political capital back home. If they vote against OC and for reducing the Class A to a Class C on 30.06 they get to play to the liberals and to CHLers in their district that they aren't anti-gun but believe OC shouldn't be the law of the land. Or at least OC might be OK for their rural constituents but not the city ones.

maybe they'll even get to be on John Stewart...or who ever is hosting the Daily Show

Re: HB910 on House Calendar for 3rd Reading

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 5:25 pm
by sugar land dave
Vol Texan wrote:Sounds like Demi Moore's line in, A Few Good Men: Your Honor, I STRENUOUSLY object!"
Another good day for licensed concealed carry and open carry.

[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOnRHAyXqYY[/video]

Re: HB910 on House Calendar for 3rd Reading

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 5:31 pm
by v7a
Has anyone noticed how quickly other House Bills passed this session got their first reading on the Senate floor?

Re: HB910 on House Calendar for 3rd Reading

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 5:37 pm
by CJD
Too bad the amended change to 30.06 wouldn't become enacted until Jan.

Re: HB910 on House Calendar for 3rd Reading

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 5:40 pm
by Tracker
CJD wrote:Too bad the amended change to 30.06 wouldn't become enacted until Jan.
yeah.

Re: HB910 on House Calendar for 3rd Reading

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 6:43 pm
by viking1000
The Wall wrote:
Ruark wrote:
locke_n_load wrote:Sec. 411.2049. CERTAIN INVESTIGATORY STOPS AND INQUIRIES
7 PROHIBITED. A peace officer may not make an investigatory stop
8 or other temporary detention to inquire as to whether a person
9 possesses a handgun license solely because the person is
10 carrying a partially or wholly visible handgun carried in a
11 shoulder or belt holster.
All riiiiiiight!!!! That was a major open carry issue for me, that some lard-assed cop is going to wobble up to me... "justaminnit here, son, step over here for a second...."

I won't OC all the time, but when I do, I'm going to carry a copy of this code with me.
I'm betting it will happen anyway in the beginning. Might want to carry a copy of the bill to show just in case. I would cooperate with the officer first and then hand him a copy. :lol:
I think by the time this becomes law, as with every police department in the State, all new laws are explained to all officers in writing. I know I was one for 15 years.