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Re: SB11 & HB910 This week....
Posted: Mon May 25, 2015 9:42 am
by CJD
The Huffines Amendment has been posted:
Sec. 411.2049. CERTAIN INVESTIGATORY STOPS AND INQUIRIES
PROHIBITED. A peace officer may not make an investigatory stop or
other temporary detention to inquire as to a person’s possession of
a handgun license solely because the person is carrying in a
shoulder or belt holster a partially or wholly visible handgun.
Dutton Amendment:
Sec. 411.2049. CERTAIN INVESTIGATORY STOPS AND INQUIRIES
PROHIBITED. A peace officer may not make an investigatory stop or
other temporary detention to inquire as to whether a person
possesses a handgun license solely because the person is carrying a
partially or wholly visible handgun carried in a shoulder or belt
holster.
The underlines portions are different words, while the bolded portions are the same words but in a different order.
Re: SB11 & HB910 This week....
Posted: Mon May 25, 2015 10:00 am
by JollyHappyDad
Inspite of Dutton being more well written, IMHO, the amendments are for the purposes of enforcement, identical. With all due respect, freshman Senator Huffines belonged back on the porch in the debate, and I hope he improves those skills with experience, but how much skill does it take to COPY those few lines correctly?
Re: SB11 & HB910 This week....
Posted: Mon May 25, 2015 10:31 am
by CJD
HB910 Senate passage as amended reported.
Re: SB11 & HB910 This week....
Posted: Mon May 25, 2015 10:49 am
by viking1000
Pardon my loaded question.... Does it have to go to the house still, or does it go to the Governor ??
It says nothing else.
Re: SB11 & HB910 This week....
Posted: Mon May 25, 2015 10:57 am
by Tracker
JollyHappyDad wrote:Inspite of Dutton being more well written, IMHO, the amendments are for the purposes of enforcement, identical. With all due respect, freshman Senator Huffines belonged back on the porch in the debate, and I hope he improves those skills with experience, but how much skill does it take to COPY those few lines correctly?
In looking at the two amendments wording Huffines had to be looking at Dutton's amendment when he pinned it. The only reason I can think of to slightly change the wording is ego, he want's to claim it was
his amendment. If I'm correct then.....sorry Hufines, as far as I'm concerned the
intent was conjured out of Dutton's mind.
Re: SB11 & HB910 This week....
Posted: Mon May 25, 2015 11:09 am
by CJD
viking1000 wrote:Pardon my loaded question.... Does it have to go to the house still, or does it go to the Governor ??
It says nothing else.
To the House.
Re: SB11 & HB910 This week....
Posted: Mon May 25, 2015 11:33 am
by joe817
CJD wrote:viking1000 wrote:Pardon my loaded question.... Does it have to go to the house still, or does it go to the Governor ?? It says nothing else.
To the House.
Yup. It goes back to the House for a "concurance"(agreement) vote. They either agree with the amendment or they don't. No debate is allowed. Just voting for/against the bill as the Senate has returned to the House(with the Huffines amendment).
Charles posted in his "Call to Action: HB 910" thread a perfect summation of what is left to be done on the bill, and I'm cross-posting from that thread:
"If the House concurs then it goes to the Governor. If the House doesn't then it goes to conference committee if there is enough time. If there is time and a conference report comes out, then each chamber has an up or down vote. if its close enough to the end of the session, then Democrats will filibuster and the bill dies.
Chas."
Re: SB11 & HB910 This week....
Posted: Mon May 25, 2015 1:30 pm
by viking1000
joe817 wrote:CJD wrote:viking1000 wrote:Pardon my loaded question.... Does it have to go to the house still, or does it go to the Governor ?? It says nothing else.
To the House.
Yup. It goes back to the House for a "concurance"(agreement) vote. They either agree with the amendment or they don't. No debate is allowed. Just voting for/against the bill as the Senate has returned to the House(with the Huffines amendment).
Charles posted in his "Call to Action: HB 910" thread a perfect summation of what is left to be done on the bill, and I'm cross-posting from that thread:
"If the House concurs then it goes to the Governor. If the House doesn't then it goes to conference committee if there is enough time. If there is time and a conference report comes out, then each chamber has an up or down vote. if its close enough to the end of the session, then Democrats will filibuster and the bill dies.
Chas."
Thank you Charles !
Re: SB11 & HB910 This week....
Posted: Mon May 25, 2015 1:38 pm
by v7a
The best thing about
Licensed Open Carry is that
habitual liar Grisham won't be able to Open Carry.
Re: SB11 & HB910 This week....
Posted: Mon May 25, 2015 1:39 pm
by jmra
v7a wrote:The best thing about
Licensed Open Carry is that
habitual liar Grisham won't be able to
legally Open Carry.
Red edit is mine
Re: SB11 & HB910 This week....
Posted: Mon May 25, 2015 1:41 pm
by v7a
Touché

Re: SB11 & HB910 This week....
Posted: Mon May 25, 2015 1:49 pm
by Winchster
jmra wrote:v7a wrote:The best thing about
Licensed Open Carry is that
habitual liar Grisham won't be able to
legally Open Carry.
Red edit is mine
Not to bust any bubbles, but if he has a recognized out of state permit, he could. Right?
Re: SB11 & HB910 This week....
Posted: Mon May 25, 2015 1:54 pm
by Charles L. Cotton
Winchster wrote:jmra wrote:v7a wrote:The best thing about
Licensed Open Carry is that
habitual liar Grisham won't be able to
legally Open Carry.
Red edit is mine
Not to bust any bubbles, but if he has a recognized out of state permit, he could. Right?
If he does, then yes he can carry. However, he expressly stated on a Guns Over Texas radio program that if licensed open-carry passes, he will have to continue to carry a rifle since he won't be able to carry a handgun. He made that statement as a call-in listener when I was a guest on the show.
Chas.
Re: SB11 & HB910 This week....
Posted: Mon May 25, 2015 2:02 pm
by jmra
Charles L. Cotton wrote:Winchster wrote:jmra wrote:v7a wrote:The best thing about
Licensed Open Carry is that
habitual liar Grisham won't be able to
legally Open Carry.
Red edit is mine
Not to bust any bubbles, but if he has a recognized out of state permit, he could. Right?
If he does, then yes he can carry. However, he expressly stated on a Guns Over Texas radio program that if licensed open-carry passes, he will have to continue to carry a rifle since he won't be able to carry a handgun. He made that statement as a call-in listener when I was a guest on the show.
Chas.
Mr. Cotton,
Wasn't there also some questions raised about the legality of his OCing in OK? Seems like I heard something about that on the radio program.
Re: SB11 & HB910 This week....
Posted: Mon May 25, 2015 2:03 pm
by Winchster
Charles L. Cotton wrote:Winchster wrote:jmra wrote:v7a wrote:The best thing about
Licensed Open Carry is that
habitual liar Grisham won't be able to
legally Open Carry.
Red edit is mine
Not to bust any bubbles, but if he has a recognized out of state permit, he could. Right?
If he does, then yes he can carry. However, he expressly stated on a Guns Over Texas radio program that if licensed open-carry passes, he will have to continue to carry a rifle since he won't be able to carry a handgun. He made that statement as a call-in listener when I was a guest on the show.
Chas.
Fair enough