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Re: Cuffed and Stuffed

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 3:09 pm
by handog
Be very careful. Once your CHL has been suspended and reinstated your only one snitch away from having it permanently revoked. So your living in fear witch defeats the purpose.

Re: Cuffed and Stuffed

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 3:26 pm
by Charles L. Cotton
handog wrote:Be very careful. Once your CHL has been suspended and reinstated your only one snitch away from having it permanently revoked. So your living in fear witch defeats the purpose.
Why?

Chas.

Re: Cuffed and Stuffed

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 4:50 pm
by handog
I went back to retrieve the statute. Looks like I’ve misinterpreted. :???: I was under the impression that two suspensions for the same offence would be grounds for revocation.

Re: Cuffed and Stuffed

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 5:47 pm
by PUCKER
How long were you without your TX CHL (meaning the actual in-your-hand license)?

When I took my CHL class from Crossfire she pointed out the benefit of having another license (ie - UT CFP), this bad situation definitely drives that point home!

Re: Cuffed and Stuffed

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 6:44 pm
by 03Lightningrocks
PUCKER wrote:How long were you without your TX CHL (meaning the actual in-your-hand license)?

When I took my CHL class from Crossfire she pointed out the benefit of having another license (ie - UT CFP), this bad situation definitely drives that point home!
You just caused me to think of another possible "issue". I am wondering what would happen if you were stopped and found carrying under Utah non-resident while your Texas was under suspension for a possible criminal reason? Might get tricky when the officer who stops you discovers your CHL is under suspension. I bet the conversation would get a bit squirrely from that point on. I have this visual of trying to esplain myself as he hand cuffs me and puts me in the back of the car.

I considered the Utah good for carrying while waiting for a renewal. I never considered using it for a replacement while under suspension.

Re: Cuffed and Stuffed

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 7:02 pm
by chabouk
03Lightningrocks wrote:You just caused me to think of another possible "issue". I am wondering what would happen if you were stopped and found carrying under Utah non-resident while your Texas was under suspension for a possible criminal reason? Might get tricky when the officer who stops you discovers your CHL is under suspension. I bet the conversation would get a bit squirrely from that point on. I have this visual of trying to esplain myself as he hand cuffs me and puts me in the back of the car.
What would the problem be?

A Texas CHL is not required to secure a Utah license, and the Utah license isn't affected by a Texas suspension.

Re: Cuffed and Stuffed

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 7:28 pm
by Greybeard
Quote: "Might get tricky when the officer who stops you discovers your CHL is under suspension."

Agreed. Lotsa of 'em might just let the legal beagles sort it out later. Much later.

Re: Cuffed and Stuffed

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 7:29 pm
by 03Lightningrocks
chabouk wrote:
03Lightningrocks wrote:You just caused me to think of another possible "issue". I am wondering what would happen if you were stopped and found carrying under Utah non-resident while your Texas was under suspension for a possible criminal reason? Might get tricky when the officer who stops you discovers your CHL is under suspension. I bet the conversation would get a bit squirrely from that point on. I have this visual of trying to esplain myself as he hand cuffs me and puts me in the back of the car.
What would the problem be?

A Texas CHL is not required to secure a Utah license, and the Utah license isn't affected by a Texas suspension.
I will tell the arresting officer that I have it on good information from some poster on the internet that everything is legit. :smilelol5:

Re: Cuffed and Stuffed

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 7:59 pm
by cbr600
03Lightningrocks wrote:You just caused me to think of another possible "issue". I am wondering what would happen if you were stopped and found carrying under Utah non-resident while your Texas was under suspension for a possible criminal reason?
I'm thinking this hypothetical person needs to learn that concealed does not mean flapping in the breeze.

That said, I don't see anything in the MPA language that disqualifies someone who has been accused but not convicted. As far as walking around is concerned, I have an idea for that but I won't discuss it online. Buy me a beer sometime and... :leaving

Re: Cuffed and Stuffed

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 9:06 pm
by 03Lightningrocks
cbr600 wrote:
03Lightningrocks wrote:You just caused me to think of another possible "issue". I am wondering what would happen if you were stopped and found carrying under Utah non-resident while your Texas was under suspension for a possible criminal reason?
I'm thinking this hypothetical person needs to learn that concealed does not mean flapping in the breeze.

That said, I don't see anything in the MPA language that disqualifies someone who has been accused but not convicted. As far as walking around is concerned, I have an idea for that but I won't discuss it online. Buy me a beer sometime and... :leaving
LOL...that is a rather ironic post considering the thread it is posted on. I don't believe flapping in the breeze is what got the OP arrested. :coolgleamA:

Re: Cuffed and Stuffed

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 9:16 pm
by handog
PUCKER wrote:How long were you without your TX CHL (meaning the actual in-your-hand license)?

When I took my CHL class from Crossfire she pointed out the benefit of having another license (ie - UT CFP), this bad situation definitely drives that point home!
I'm still trying to get my CHL back. Not sure how long it will take. If I need to defend myself now all I have is my cell phone. I'll call the PD, I'm sure they will be there in time to outline my body with chalk.

Re: Cuffed and Stuffed

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 9:22 pm
by marksiwel
handog wrote:
PUCKER wrote:How long were you without your TX CHL (meaning the actual in-your-hand license)?

When I took my CHL class from Crossfire she pointed out the benefit of having another license (ie - UT CFP), this bad situation definitely drives that point home!
I'm still trying to get my CHL back. Not sure how long it will take. If I need to defend myself now all I have is my cell phone. I'll call the PD, I'm sure they will be there in time to outline my body with chalk.
I saw an Rossi 38 for 199 bucks at Academy today. Not a bad gun and its better than nothing

Re: Cuffed and Stuffed

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 9:29 pm
by Armybrat
Well, at least you can still carry a PDD in your car without a license.

Re: Cuffed and Stuffed

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 9:52 pm
by gringogigante
gigag04 wrote:This has degenerated into mindless cop bashing. I will consider that the time for intelligent conversation has passed for this thread and no longer post on it.


Have fun boys. Give that copper heck.
:clapping:
I haven't noticed any mindlessness or cop bashing. They were venting about what those particular cops said and did because the bashing of said activities are justified. If a cop (or civilian) acts like an idiot, they get to be called an idiot.

Re: Cuffed and Stuffed

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 11:00 am
by chabouk
03Lightningrocks wrote:
chabouk wrote:
03Lightningrocks wrote:You just caused me to think of another possible "issue". I am wondering what would happen if you were stopped and found carrying under Utah non-resident while your Texas was under suspension for a possible criminal reason? Might get tricky when the officer who stops you discovers your CHL is under suspension. I bet the conversation would get a bit squirrely from that point on. I have this visual of trying to esplain myself as he hand cuffs me and puts me in the back of the car.
What would the problem be?

A Texas CHL is not required to secure a Utah license, and the Utah license isn't affected by a Texas suspension.
I will tell the arresting officer that I have it on good information from some poster on the internet that everything is legit. :smilelol5:
Sure, you can even tell them you found it here. ;-)