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Re: I'm calling it: Gingrich/Rice in 2012
Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 2:34 pm
by Dave2
Oldgringo wrote:The NRA and I liked Huntsman, alas.
I never knew much about Huntsman. Mostly I was just confused as to why there was so much border-line hatred towards him. I think that online "who should you vote for" quiz that someone posted here a couple weeks ago put him in my top three, but it was clear to me even then that he was unlikely to get anywhere so I never bothered researching him.
Re: I'm calling it: Gingrich/Rice in 2012
Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 11:40 pm
by Ashlar
Huntsman was too sane and rational. Not enough fire-breathing.
Face it, the republican primaries are about 'How far ultra-conservative can you go..' and then the nominee has to course-correct himself for the general election to appeal to the rest of the country.
Re: I'm calling it: Gingrich/Rice in 2012
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 12:23 am
by texasmusic
Romney is ultra conservative??

Re: I'm calling it: Gingrich/Rice in 2012
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 6:51 am
by Liberty
texasmusic wrote:Romney is ultra conservative??

Maybe he is talking about Bob Dole or John McCain, Romney hasn't ever been a nominee. Not yet anyway.
Re: I'm calling it: Gingrich/Rice in 2012
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:02 am
by AEA
I'm calling it: Gingrich/Rice
Newt may be finished tonight...........
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Re: I'm calling it: Gingrich/Rice in 2012
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:48 am
by The Annoyed Man
Ashlar wrote:Huntsman was too sane and rational. Not enough fire-breathing.
Face it, the republican primaries are about 'How far ultra-conservative can you go..' and then the nominee has to course-correct himself for the general election to appeal to the rest of the country.
I don't think that explains why Romney has maintained his steady lead over the others in the primaries. All those folks who are trying to "out-conservative" one another are losing to Romney so far.
The problem is that this contest to outdo one another has become a distraction, and the candidates are really chewing one another up. They are acting out a caricature of conservatism, not the real thing. This is the most virulent republican primary that I can recall, and democrats are loving it. Our guys are spending all their energies on character assassination of one another, and Obama is getting off scott free. Every single primary candidate
ought to be refusing to engage in this crap, and instead focus all of their energies on exposing the fraud, moral bankruptcy, economic ignorance, and mendacity of this this administration.
If they don't stop it, we're going to lose the election
and the future existence of this country to Obama's promise to remake it into something unrecognizable as
American.
Re: I'm calling it: Gingrich/Rice in 2012
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:02 am
by The Annoyed Man
Interesting development..... Perry withdrawing, and will be endorsing Gingrich in a little while.
Re: I'm calling it: Gingrich/Rice in 2012
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:14 am
by Oldgringo
The Annoyed Man wrote:Ashlar wrote:Huntsman was too sane and rational. Not enough fire-breathing.
Face it, the republican primaries are about 'How far ultra-conservative can you go..' and then the nominee has to course-correct himself for the general election to appeal to the rest of the country.
I don't think that explains why Romney has maintained his steady lead over the others in the primaries. All those folks who are trying to "out-conservative" one another are losing to Romney so far.
The problem is that this contest to outdo one another has become a distraction, and the candidates are really chewing one another up. They are acting out a caricature of conservatism, not the real thing. This is the most virulent republican primary that I can recall, and democrats are loving it. Our guys are spending all their energies on character assassination of one another, and Obama is getting off scott free. Every single primary candidate
ought to be refusing to engage in this crap, and instead focus all of their energies on exposing the fraud, moral bankruptcy, economic ignorance, and mendacity of this this administration.
If they don't stop it, we're going to lose the election
and the future existence of this country to Obama's promise to remake it into something unrecognizable as
American.
I am afraid, very afraid that all you say above is true...woe is us.
Re: I'm calling it: Gingrich/Rice in 2012
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:36 am
by Ashlar
texasmusic wrote:Romney is ultra conservative??

Romney's trying to take a step to the right (and not succeeding, but he's trying.)
Re: I'm calling it: Gingrich/Rice in 2012
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 12:37 pm
by texasmusic
Romney isn't the nominee... yet. He's moving that direction and the media is on his side. Even if newt topples him... I don't call him ultra conservative either. I don't see either one of them doing anything the great obongo wouldn't do.
Re: I'm calling it: Gingrich/Rice in 2012
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 2:42 pm
by bayouhazard
texasmusic wrote:Romney is ultra conservative??

Maybe he means this is as conservative as Romney gets. So expect a hard turn to port if he gets the nomination.
Anyne else hear a rumor that Santorum actually won one?
Re: I'm calling it: Gingrich/Rice in 2012
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 2:53 pm
by OldCannon
bayouhazard wrote:texasmusic wrote:Romney is ultra conservative??

Maybe he means this is as conservative as Romney gets. So expect a hard turn to port if he gets the nomination.
Anyne else hear a rumor that Santorum actually won one?
Don't matter to me. After Santorum's tacit approval of SOPA, he's off my "might consider" list.
Re: I'm calling it: Gingrich/Rice in 2012
Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 12:08 pm
by Kythas
Three days ago I would have said Gingrich was done, but he came out swinging in the debate and said what we all wanted to say to the press and it helped him big.
I think Newt is probably the most intelligent person in the running but he's being stupid in attacking Romney's financial success. After all, isn't the ability to freely earn as much as you legally can a core tenet of not only the GOP, but our entire country and capitalist system? I don't understand why anyone would think attacking that success would work with Republicans. Democrats will bang that drum in the interest of class warfare, though.
It looks like it's anyone's race at this point. With Florida next, it'll be really interesting to see what happens there.
Re: I'm calling it: Gingrich/Rice in 2012
Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 1:20 pm
by RockingRook
No matter what happens now an Obama re-election is certain.
The Republicans have been so busy beating each other up they forgot about
attacking Obama. Yes, they could be using their own campaigns to attack all of Obama's failed policies
and offering a solution to them. Instead of attacking each other with nonsense.
I think Obama has his 2nd term in the bag.
Chuck

Re: I'm calling it: Gingrich/Rice in 2012
Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 2:06 pm
by tbrown
RockingRook wrote:The Republicans have been so busy beating each other up they forgot about
attacking Obama. Yes, they could be using their own campaigns to attack all of Obama's failed policies
and offering a solution to them. Instead of attacking each other with nonsense.
Other than the Bain Capital detour, most all the attacks on Romney can double as attacks on Obama. But I agree, if Romney gets the nomination, there's really nothing for Mitt to attack Barack on, and Obama's reelection is in the bag.