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TX: No place but Plano

Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 10:55 pm
by philip964
https://twitter.com/johncardillo/status ... lano-tx%2F

BLM blocks traffic with apparently police protection.

Re: TX: No place but Plano

Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 11:42 pm
by Flightmare

Re: TX: No place but Plano

Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 2:25 am
by cirus
And this will continue to happen until some irate motorist gets out with an AR and does a 60rnd mag dump.

Re: TX: No place but Plano

Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 4:07 am
by crazy2medic
I'm actually surprised some motorist didn't shoot those blocking the road and pointing a gun into traffic

Re: TX: No place but Plano

Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 7:41 am
by Jeff B.
Absolute nonsense.

They are obstructing the right of way and a public thoroughfare. That cop should be moving them out of the road and the arresting them if they do not clear the road and move to the sidewalks.

Play in traffic... well that’s a stupid thing to do.

The prize should be as expected for playing stupid games. I see nothing wrong with obeying the traffic signals and driving through them.

Jeff B.

Re: TX: No place but Plano

Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 7:53 am
by Mel
cirus wrote: Sun May 09, 2021 2:25 am And this will continue to happen until some irate motorist gets out with an AR and does a 60rnd mag dump.
This is exactly what they are hoping for! Nothing is going to improve until the cities/counties/states begin enforcing the laws.

Re: TX: No place but Plano

Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 8:01 am
by cirus
Jeff B. wrote: Sun May 09, 2021 7:41 am Absolute nonsense.

They are obstructing the right of way and a public thoroughfare. That cop should be moving them out of the road and the arresting them if they do not clear the road and move to the sidewalks.

Play in traffic... well that’s a stupid thing to do.

The prize should be as expected for playing stupid games. I see nothing wrong with obeying the traffic signals and driving through them.

Jeff B.
:iagree:

Re: TX: No place but Plano

Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 8:03 am
by cirus
Mel wrote: Sun May 09, 2021 7:53 am
cirus wrote: Sun May 09, 2021 2:25 am And this will continue to happen until some irate motorist gets out with an AR and does a 60rnd mag dump.
This is exactly what they are hoping for! Nothing is going to improve until the cities/counties/states begin enforcing the laws.
They're not gonna enforce the laws. Its just gonna get worse until it explodes. Then you won't be able to stop it.

Re: TX: No place but Plano

Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 8:34 am
by Jeff B.
cirus wrote: Sun May 09, 2021 8:03 am
Mel wrote: Sun May 09, 2021 7:53 am
cirus wrote: Sun May 09, 2021 2:25 am And this will continue to happen until some irate motorist gets out with an AR and does a 60rnd mag dump.
This is exactly what they are hoping for! Nothing is going to improve until the cities/counties/states begin enforcing the laws.
They're not gonna enforce the laws. Its just gonna get worse until it explodes. Then you won't be able to stop it.
Agree 100%.

Once that genie is out of the bottle it’s not going beck on quickly or easily.

Jeff B.

Re: TX: No place but Plano

Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 9:15 am
by cirus
Jeff B. wrote: Sun May 09, 2021 8:34 am
cirus wrote: Sun May 09, 2021 8:03 am
Mel wrote: Sun May 09, 2021 7:53 am
cirus wrote: Sun May 09, 2021 2:25 am And this will continue to happen until some irate motorist gets out with an AR and does a 60rnd mag dump.
This is exactly what they are hoping for! Nothing is going to improve until the cities/counties/states begin enforcing the laws.
They're not gonna enforce the laws. Its just gonna get worse until it explodes. Then you won't be able to stop it.
Agree 100%.

Once that genie is out of the bottle it’s not going beck on quickly or easily.

Jeff B.
It seems like its usually our side that gets told to stand down or get arrested in these situations. Why? Because out side is law abiding and easier to control. LE knows they can't control the left without being brutal and most LE in big cities is in Demorat controll. The only way the left will be defeated is for us to become more brutal than they are. Our side is going to have to disregard the law to get the job done.

Re: TX: No place but Plano

Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 9:56 am
by G.A. Heath
cirus wrote: Sun May 09, 2021 9:15 am
Jeff B. wrote: Sun May 09, 2021 8:34 am
cirus wrote: Sun May 09, 2021 8:03 am
Mel wrote: Sun May 09, 2021 7:53 am
cirus wrote: Sun May 09, 2021 2:25 am And this will continue to happen until some irate motorist gets out with an AR and does a 60rnd mag dump.
This is exactly what they are hoping for! Nothing is going to improve until the cities/counties/states begin enforcing the laws.
They're not gonna enforce the laws. Its just gonna get worse until it explodes. Then you won't be able to stop it.
Agree 100%.

Once that genie is out of the bottle it’s not going beck on quickly or easily.

Jeff B.
It seems like its usually our side that gets told to stand down or get arrested in these situations. Why? Because out side is law abiding and easier to control. LE knows they can't control the left without being brutal and most LE in big cities is in Demorat controll. The only way the left will be defeated is for us to become more brutal than they are. Our side is going to have to disregard the law to get the job done.
In a case like this where it would be one citizen and one peace officer facing down a mob the situation calls for buying time for reenforcements to arrive, retreating, getting the citizen to stand down, or some combination thereof. The only other option is to try going out like a viking.

Yes you can fight, and you might somehow win by some miracle, but is that slim chance of winning the battle at that time worth the risk and the costs? Antifa/BLM/whatever they call themselves is doing a good job of picking their time and place and picking their battles, what we need to do is learn to do the same.

Re: TX: No place but Plano

Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 10:46 am
by Jeff B.
I’m not talking about fighting, I’m talking about the expectation for the authorities to enforce the law and maintain order. I saw a police officer who was doing neither one and allowing a mob to rule.

I also did not see and “reinforcements” nor hear of or see any arrests. When the laws are not enforced and order is not maintained with a bias towards one side, faction or movement, those not in that movement can only assume that the authorities and the government is not representing them and is therefore not legitimate units jurisdiction over them.

That’s a recipe for a very bad situation, which the above incident can be described as the tip of the iceberg.

Jeff B.

Re: TX: No place but Plano

Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 10:50 am
by K.Mooneyham
G.A. Heath wrote: Sun May 09, 2021 9:56 am
cirus wrote: Sun May 09, 2021 9:15 am
Jeff B. wrote: Sun May 09, 2021 8:34 am
cirus wrote: Sun May 09, 2021 8:03 am
Mel wrote: Sun May 09, 2021 7:53 am
cirus wrote: Sun May 09, 2021 2:25 am And this will continue to happen until some irate motorist gets out with an AR and does a 60rnd mag dump.
This is exactly what they are hoping for! Nothing is going to improve until the cities/counties/states begin enforcing the laws.
They're not gonna enforce the laws. Its just gonna get worse until it explodes. Then you won't be able to stop it.
Agree 100%.

Once that genie is out of the bottle it’s not going beck on quickly or easily.

Jeff B.
It seems like its usually our side that gets told to stand down or get arrested in these situations. Why? Because out side is law abiding and easier to control. LE knows they can't control the left without being brutal and most LE in big cities is in Demorat controll. The only way the left will be defeated is for us to become more brutal than they are. Our side is going to have to disregard the law to get the job done.
In a case like this where it would be one citizen and one peace officer facing down a mob the situation calls for buying time for reenforcements to arrive, retreating, getting the citizen to stand down, or some combination thereof. The only other option is to try going out like a viking.

Yes you can fight, and you might somehow win by some miracle, but is that slim chance of winning the battle at that time worth the risk and the costs? Antifa/BLM/whatever they call themselves is doing a good job of picking their time and place and picking their battles, what we need to do is learn to do the same.
Sir, I get what you are saying. I stay away from big cities as much as possible because that lessens my chances of bad incidents. However, the reasons that BLM/Antifas/leftist agitators are "winning" this stuff is due to their adroit manipulation of video on social media, and the FACT that the mass news media machine loves those troublemakers more than they love the breath of life itself. Of course, many of the Democrat politicians running big cities already agree with those agitators, and certainly don't want to do anything that might attract negative media attention. I don't envy any police officers in those cities and certainly have no desire to do that work myself. If I was in that line of work in one of those places, I'd be looking for employment elsewhere.

Re: TX: No place but Plano

Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 2:39 pm
by philip964
https://redstate.com/bonchie/2021/05/08 ... ng-n376686

Well this is getting some legs.

I didn’t realize the BLM protestors were pointing guns at people. Geez.

Re: TX: No place but Plano

Posted: Mon May 10, 2021 1:22 pm
by Flightmare
philip964 wrote: Sun May 09, 2021 2:39 pm https://redstate.com/bonchie/2021/05/08 ... ng-n376686

Well this is getting some legs.

I didn’t realize the BLM protestors were pointing guns at people. Geez.
Update from Plano PD. The item pointed was an "electronic control device".

https://www.facebook.com/PlanoTexasPoli ... 0813030401