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What is the parts name?
Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 3:39 pm
by OnTexasTime
My 40 cal pistol ejects the shell back at me. Two different people have told me to go to cheaperthandirt and buy an add on cover that will keep the shell from coming back at me. The problem is I do not know the proper name for this part to look it up on the web. Anybody know what I am talking about?
Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 3:42 pm
by WarHawk-AVG
That would be the ejector or case deflector?
If the ejector is too long its kicking the rounds out too early, which means its allowing the round to over rotate and bounce off the slide.
Could it be a brass catcher
What kind of pistol?
I have decent searchfu
Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 3:54 pm
by OnTexasTime
It's a Beretta.
I have had the gun ten years and its always done it.
In years past I was on an outdoor range with a ballcap on and didn't pay attention. Now going to an indoor range I don't like them bouncing off the top of my head.
Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 4:07 pm
by frankie_the_yankee
I would take it to a good gunsmith and get it fixed. Sounds like something is wrong with the ejector to me, as another person posted.
A case deflector, or whatever it is called, would just be a 'band-aid' for the problem. Beter to get it properly fixed.
Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 4:13 pm
by WarHawk-AVG
Re: What is the parts name?
Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 4:55 pm
by G.C.Montgomery
OnTexasTime wrote:My 40 cal pistol ejects the shell back at me. Two different people have told me to go to cheaperthandirt and buy an add on cover that will keep the shell from coming back at me. The problem is I do not know the proper name for this part to look it up on the web. Anybody know what I am talking about?
OnTexasTime,
Is this a Beretta 96 series pistol(large ejection port and exposed barrel on top) or the 8040 Cougar(rotating barrel)? Don't take this the wrong way but, are you sure the problem is the pistol rather than your grip? I don't know you from a hill of beans but, I don't often see ejection problems with either gun. FWIW, the extractors and ejectors in these pistol are often the last parts to fail even in high volume pistols that see 1000 rounds/month or more. Most problems I see with these pistols are either related to poor user maintenance (lack of oil) or improper user technique.
As others mentioned, the part you were told about is likely a brass catcher or case deflector. These items are usually purchased by reloaders and they are not intended to fix mechanical problems nor mask a shooter's flawed technique. Just have someone watch you shoot and ask them if it looks like the muzzle is flipping up significantly....Say 35-degrees or so. If the person notes significant muzzle flip, your grip may be the problem.
If you are letting the muzzle "flip," then you are robbing the slide of velocty relative to the frame. In as recoil operated pistol, poor grip can and often does lead to the operator being dinged in the head with the ejected brass. Glocks, in .40S&W are especially well known for this. Your mileage may vary but I think it's worth a trip to the range to avoid spending unnecessary cash on something that may not fix your problem.
Re: What is the parts name?
Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 6:12 pm
by OnTexasTime
G.C.Montgomery wrote:
OnTexasTime,
Is this a Beretta 96 series pistol(large ejection port and exposed barrel on top) or the 8040 Cougar(rotating barrel)? Don't take this the wrong way but, are you sure the problem is the pistol rather than your grip? I don't know you from a hill of beans but, I don't often see ejection problems with either gun. FWIW, the extractors and ejectors in these pistol are often the last parts to fail even in high volume pistols that see 1000 rounds/month or more. Most problems I see with these pistols are either related to poor user maintenance (lack of oil) or improper user technique.
Yes it is a Model 96. And maybe the problem is me. I have others guns I shoot and have not had the same experience with them.
I called a friend who has been with me when shooting this gun before, he offered the opinion that the gun ejected up and to the right and the shells hitting me were deflecting off the side walls in the lane I was in at the gun range.
Before I do anything else I will shoot the gun again at both in an open range and the indoor range. I will also take an extra pair of eyes along to watch what the gun and what I am doing.
Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 8:19 pm
by phddan
Might let the other person shoot it while you watch also.
Dan
Re: What is the parts name?
Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 8:30 pm
by flintknapper
G.C.Montgomery wrote: Just have someone watch you shoot and ask them if it looks like the muzzle is flipping up significantly....Say 35-degrees or so. If the person notes significant muzzle flip, your grip may be the problem.
If you are letting the muzzle "flip," then you are robbing the slide of velocty relative to the frame. In as recoil operated pistol, poor grip can and often does lead to the operator being dinged in the head with the ejected brass. Glocks, in .40S&W are especially well known for this. Your mileage may vary but I think it's worth a trip to the range to avoid spending unnecessary cash on something that may not fix your problem.
I am inclined to agree with this. At least its worth looking at.
My Brother's wife gets dinged in the head almost every time she shoots his Springfield Ultra Compact (not a problem for the rest of us).
When we "taped" her...it was evident their was excessive muzzle flip AND twisting of the gun in her hand.
It costs nothing to examine if it is shooter induced.