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I heard a statistic about the number of CHL shootings and the number that had resulted in lawsuits. IIRC, the majority had.

Please don't quote this anywhere as I am fuzzy on the numbers and don't have any authoritative source for the data. I don't want my inquiry to turn into a source in and of itself.

Does anyone know of a source for this type of information?

JohnKSa wrote:I heard a statistic about the number of CHL shootings and the number that had resulted in lawsuits. IIRC, the majority had.

Please don't quote this anywhere as I am fuzzy on the numbers and don't have any authoritative source for the data. I don't want my inquiry to turn into a source in and of itself.

Does anyone know of a source for this type of information?

I don't know where to find this info but I would be very surprised if anywhere near a majority of CHL shootings here in TX result in a lawsuit. I've never heard of one in the 6 years that I have lived here. And with the new Castle Doctrine law it becomes much harder to win such a suit. The practical effect of this is to make it much less likely (than it was before) for such a suit to be filed, because lawyers do not relish the idea of working for nothing.

I don't recall reading about a CHL holder being sued in the five years or so that I've been paying attention to such things.

In the first place, the number of CHL holders in Texas who shoot someone is probably around a dozen a year. The vast majority of defensive shootings are in homes or businesses. Those rarely result in lawsuits, either.

- Jim

Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?

I would think that with the Castle Doctrine now in effect, our current numbers are close to zero (for justifiable shoots).

JohnKSa wrote:Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?

Hey, thats my line!

No I do not think the numbers, if found, change much...

Most of us in this forum are pretty well plugged into information from a variety of sources, and that when we hear of an incident, the procedures are pretty much the same...

Any shooting is going to be investigated, things will get confiscated during that investigation, and when all is said and done things usually work out in the end...

Most of us are prepared for that "ride" because of what we have seen and discussed about these incidents...

There are a few searchable shooting incidents discussed here, as a result of an actual criminal act being committed against them or someone in the news, or some neglegent discharges that happen every now and then...

Just rest assured...If the gun goes bang in these situations, its going to get a good looking at...

Not sure if this is what you are looking for but there are conviction rates for what seems like pretty much anything imaginable broken down by CHL & non chl holders

http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/administra ... vrates.htm

But of course this is just convictions and not lawsuits. Also it's not clear if this is civil, criminal or both.

atxgun wrote:Not sure if this is what you are looking for but there are conviction rates for what seems like pretty much anything imaginable broken down by CHL & non chl holders

http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/administra ... vrates.htm

But of course this is just convictions and not lawsuits. Also it's not clear if this is civil, criminal or both.

That data is for criminal convictions only.

Civil suits, if any, are completely unrelated. I'm not aware of where civil suit data might be found.

But I agree with others that since Castle Doctrine was passed, the chances of winning such a lawsuit in TX on a clean shoot is so small that very few lawyers would even attempt it on a contingent fee basis.

I think this was a bigger problem in the early years. The Concealed Handgun Manual discusses a few of these cases. The first CHLer in Texas to defend himself with lethal force was sued in civil court and he lost.

Civil litigation and the results are very difficult to track. IIRC, there was a publication called the Blue Sheet that attempted to track the results of civil trials but that was a decade ago.

Most of the information regarding the results of civil suits is kept very well protected by the party who went to the effort of collecting it. I am sure that there are vendors that will charge a pretty penny for that info and, of course, the insurance companies maintain a vast array of data on civil suits.

I hope this helps explain the situation.