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Is it legal to carry at the Texas Reniassance Festivel?
Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 11:31 pm
by Doug.38PR
I'm going Saturday. can I carry? Or is that an amusement park?
Re: Is it legal to carry at the Texas Reniassance Festivel?
Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 6:22 am
by Liberty
Doug.38PR wrote:I'm going Saturday. can I carry? Or is that an amusement park?
It has been reported here that the renaissance Festival is not 30.06 posted you are good to go. It does not meet the legal requirements to be considered an amusement park. Not that it matters, you can carry at an amusement park if it isn't 30.06 posted.
Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 9:42 am
by Kalrog
In the past, it has not been posted. To the best of my knowledge it is not posted this year. Carry away.
Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 10:12 am
by barres
Went opening weekend. No 30.06 postings. Sign at the entrance said something to the effect of "By decree of the King, no weapons are allowed." Which was a joke; half or more of the folks there were carrying knives and swords. I carried.
Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 11:45 am
by stevie_d_64
One of the things that had been discussed in the past was the areas that are properly posted with the TABC 51% sign...Those are a "no-go" area...
I would probably carry to the event and leave it locked up secure in a safe in side your vehicle...
For the most part its still a neat place to go unwind, not be yourself

, and have a good time...
We go there regularly, and have a couple of friends that are seasoned performers on staff at the festival...
It is one place I know that has the potential to create an environment that might make you feel like you have to, but I can say it doesn't give me too much pause to justify carrying beyond locking it up in the vehicle...
I'd relax, not make a big deal out of it and go have a good time...
Besides...You 1911 carriers...I defy you to carry all over that place, and not want to head back out to the car when you get close to the front gate again!!!

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 3:16 pm
by casingpoint
Legalities aside, it may be necessary to carry at the Renaissance Festival after a U.S. Navy sailor was murdered in the parking lot a couple of years ago.
Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 5:36 pm
by Doug.38PR
Well,
I went, I carried, I'm still not in jail.
Some of my friends kept wondering why I had on a light windbreaker all day (considering the weather this week has been more like early march rather than November.). I told them the truth (most of it), that I liked wearing coats, that I was wearing it because I thought it would be cool tonight and that my body is used to wearing coats.
Had a .38 service revolver in a shoulder holster all day.
There was a sign that said "No Firearms Allowed Inside the Park" (not weapons). But as it wasn't a 30.06 sign, I figured it didn't apply to a CHL holder.
Tell me, just what does qualify as an amusement park? Several have said TRF doesn't qualify. I thought it was a place set aside with a certain amount of acreage that had rides, drinks, food and entertainment served with deputies around (or something to that effect). Well, TRF seems to have all of those things....please clarify.
Also,
What is it about the TRF and smoking? Seemed like 1 out of 3 people there was walking around smoking a cigarette (cough cough). Not that I am one of those pansy liberals that want laws banning smoking everywhere from outdoors to restaruants to private residences, but sure was nasty. Plus didn't fit in very well seeing King Arthur and Gwenivier going around with a cigarette dangling form their mouths.....some of those costumes looked pretty.....well...one or two people I saw in there should have been arrested for indecent exposure (seriously)
Still, all that aside we had a great time and fully intend to go back.
Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 6:05 pm
by seamusTX
Doug.38PR wrote:Tell me, just what does qualify as an amusement park?
"Amusement park" means a permanent indoor or outdoor
facility or park where amusement rides are available for use by the
public that is located in a county with a population of more than one
million, encompasses at least 75 acres in surface area, is enclosed
with access only through controlled entries, is open for operation more
than 120 days in each calendar year, and has security guards on the
premises at all times.
Amusement parks, like most other private property, must be now be 30.06 posted to be off-limits.
AFAIK, the only place in Texas that meets this definition is Sea World in San Antonio.
The law was tailored specifically to cover Six Flags in Houston, which is defunct. At the time, Harris was the only county with more than a million population.
- Jim
Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 6:10 pm
by Doug.38PR
Rather than go through the trouble tailoring all that language together...why not just let Astroworld put up a 30.06 sign?
BTW, I sure hate it that they tore Astroworld down....still not happy about them moving the Astros out of the Astrodome or putting up that ugly Texan stadium right next to a perfectly usable Astrodome (eight wonder of the world), and the Lee Brown train that choo choos down main street right next to them. Four shining examples of waste of taxpayer money for all to see as you drive by on 610

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 6:16 pm
by seamusTX
Doug.38PR wrote:Rather than go through the trouble tailoring all that language together...why not just let Astroworld put up a 30.06 sign?
In 1995, when the original law was passed there was no 30.06.
I didn't live in Texas at the time and don't know all the political give-and-take. I'm guessing the management of Six Flags objected very strongly and had to be mollified.
- Jim
Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 7:04 pm
by txinvestigator
seamusTX wrote:Doug.38PR wrote:Tell me, just what does qualify as an amusement park?
"Amusement park" means a permanent indoor or outdoor
facility or park where amusement rides are available for use by the
public that is located in a county with a population of more than one
million, encompasses at least 75 acres in surface area, is enclosed
with access only through controlled entries, is open for operation more
than 120 days in each calendar year, and has security guards on the
premises at all times.
Amusement parks, like most other private property, must be now be 30.06 posted to be off-limits.
AFAIK, the only place in Texas that meets this definition is Sea World in San Antonio.
The law was tailored specifically to cover Six Flags in Houston, which is defunct. At the time, Harris was the only county with more than a million population.
- Jim
Tarrant county has had over 1 million since at least 1990. That is where Six Flags Arlington is.
Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 7:05 pm
by seamusTX
txinvestigator wrote:Tarrant county has had over 1 million since at least 1990. That is where Six Flags Arlington is.
OK. I did not know that.
- Jim
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 9:42 am
by barres
seamusTX wrote:AFAIK, the only place in Texas that meets this definition is Sea World in San Antonio.
- Jim
Don't forget Six Flags Fiesta Texas also (more or less) in San Antonio. But still, now with the change to the penal code, even an amusement park must be effectively posted per PC30.06, as several here have stated.
As to why the Ren Fest does not qualify as an amusement park, the big reason is that it is not open at least 120 days per year, and it might not cover 75 acres.
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 9:44 am
by seamusTX
barres wrote:Don't forget Six Flags Fiesta Texas ...
Actually, I don't think I ever heard of it. I have little interest in such places.
- Jim