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Revocation of an instructor license

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 10:08 pm
by atxgun
Took the class today and toward the end he was going over how if he didn't do the 10 hours and all this other stuff his lic. would be revoked and so would all of his students and we'd have to start over again.

Does that apply to just students in the class where the infraction occurred or any student he's ever taught? What if he does something non class related that get's his instructors lic. revoked, does that affect any of his students?

Would we at least be notified if this happened or just sitting ducks waiting to get nailed w/ unlic. possession?

Re: Revocation of an instructor license

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 10:13 pm
by txinvestigator
atxgun wrote:Took the class today and toward the end he was going over how if he didn't do the 10 hours and all this other stuff his lic. would be revoked and so would all of his students and we'd have to start over again.

Does that apply to just students in the class where the infraction occurred or any student he's ever taught? DPS would have to be able to establish that he did not do the full course for each student they revoked. What if he does something non class related that get's his instructors lic. revoked, does that affect any of his students? You mean like get a felony? It would not affect past students
Would we at least be notified if this happened or just sitting ducks waiting to get nailed w/ unlic. possession?
Yes, you would be notified.

BTW, I have been asked more than once to do an expidited class and offered excellent compensation. I imagine some people just can't resist that temptation.

Re: Revocation of an instructor license

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 10:26 pm
by frankie_the_yankee
txinvestigator wrote: BTW, I have been asked more than once to do an expidited class and offered excellent compensation. I imagine some people just can't resist that temptation.
In a mildly related note...............

Back in RI the shooting qualification may be administered by a NRA Certified Instructor. Being an instructor myself and president of a gun club, I was often asked to qualify people seeking to obtain or renew their RI Pistol Permit.

I'll never forget one guy, a club member, who asked me to "just sign" his form, as he was pressed for time. He felt that since we both shot on the club's pistol team, it should be obvious to me that there was no way he would fail the test, so why bother to do it? (He carried an Expert rating in Indoor Bullseye.)

The test was 30 rounds of Slow Fire at an Army L target at 25 yards. (Yes, I know this is absurd. But it is what it is.)

Not that it would have made any difference, but this guy was hard to get along with and I, like most people that knew him, didn't really like him all that much.

And I just smiled and shook my head and said, "Can you tell me why on Earth I would want to commit a felony by making a false statement on the permit application? I don't care how good you can shoot, if you want my name on that form, you're gonna have to shoot the course."

He was insulted. Later on, I learned he got someone else to sign the form for him.

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 10:55 pm
by atxgun
If he's that good then why not just do the shooting flawlessly and be like "that's what i thought" afterwards :grin:

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 11:07 pm
by frankie_the_yankee
atxgun wrote:If he's that good then why not just do the shooting flawlessly and be like "that's what i thought" afterwards :grin:
Among his many other questionable qualities, the guy was a tightwad. I figured he just didn't want to buy a box of ammo if he didn't have to.

Plus, he fancied himself a better shooter than he was. I think it was a point of pride for him that he was considered by someone, anyone, to be "so good" that he didn't need to shoot the course.

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 8:07 am
by zigzag
Tell them to hit the gas and find another instructor.