Petition to Open Carry In Texas
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 11:22 am
Yet another re-post.
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1. Every individual has the right and responsibility to defend their self against unjustified threats of death or serious bodily injury.
2. The Constitution of the United States guarantees the right of individuals to keep and bear arms.
3. Criminals are not deterred by rules, regulations, and laws forbidding the possession of weapons. A man bent on mass murder will not be stopped by a rule forbidding him to have a gun. what has this to do with OPEN carry? If you want UNLICENSED CARRY, then call it that.
4. It is well known that the requirement to conceal a handgun for the purpose of protecting self, friends, and family can be difficult especially in Texas with our extreme heat since a person will usually have to wear a jacket to properly conceal a handgun and to avoid "printing." No one has to worry about "printing" now, and I carry a full sized pistol all summer with shorts and a t shirt. I know MANY people who do the same
5. The requirement to conceal a handgun can make it difficult to draw the weapon should the life of the carrier or the life of someone else be in danger. More Bull. I draw plenty fast, and from covered. So do the people I know who carry, of course, we don't just strap our guns on a hope we can draw fast if we ever need to. We train
6. A criminal will not open carry a weapon because he does not want to draw attention to himself. We believe that a citizen openly carrying a handgun lawfully will be a deterrent for crime. well, if open carry becomes second nature and no one notices, then criminals will not mind open carrying as no one will give them any attention. Also, there is NO evidence that open carry deters crime. I can recall where people carrying open have been crime targets7. Ten states including Arizona, Alaska, Idaho, Kentucky, Montana, New Mexico, South Dakota, Virginia, Vermont, and Wyoming all allow open carry of handguns without a license. Twelve states including Connecticut, Indiana, Iowa, Georgia, Maryland, Massachusetts, Minnesota, New Jersey, North Dakota, Rhode Island, Utah, and Tennessee allow open carry of handguns with a license. In fact, Texas is one of only SIX states in the entire United States that completely bans open carry of handguns. outright lie. Texas does NOT outright ban the open carry of handguns. Of the 8 allowances where people can carry a handgun, one REQUIRES the gun to be carried in plain view, two require concealed carry, and the rest are silent.
And I would have to see proof of the laws in those states that allow such open carry.
8. In these states, Open carry is very common and it does not alarm law enforcement or other citizens. I have spoken to people from other states who tell me that OC is allowed, but UNCOMMON, and others tell of the alarn it causes.
1) Why not?Russell wrote:If you've been convicted of a felony or a class A or B misdemeanor in the past 5 years, or are mentally incapable or have EVER been convicted of drug possession, you should NOT be allowed to carry a handgun, or purchase one
Yes, however the word "moderate" would be better used.KBCraig wrote:2) So, you support infringing RKBA?
From the sixth day of creation until the early 1900s, anyone could carry a weapon in the United States with no permit.jazr45acp wrote:I have to disagree about open carry without a license. If you don't have to obtain a license then you don't demonstrate any proficiency which all CHL holders must in order to pass.
While I am not arguing carry at all with this post, just because something is done for a long time does not mean it is right. See slavery and segregation, women not being allowed to vote, etc.seamusTX wrote:From the sixth day of creation until the early 1900s, anyone could carry a weapon in the United States with no permit.jazr45acp wrote:I have to disagree about open carry without a license. If you don't have to obtain a license then you don't demonstrate any proficiency which all CHL holders must in order to pass.
- Jim
So Martha Stewart and G. Gordon Liddy are both dangers to society because of their crimes, and should be denied their right to carry?Russell wrote:If you've been convicted of a felony or a class A or B misdemeanor in the past 5 years, or are mentally incapable or have EVER been convicted of drug possession, you should NOT be allowed to carry a handgun, or purchase one
That is a valid point. Thanks for the opportunity to elaborate.txinvestigator wrote:While I am not arguing carry at all with this post, just because something is done for a long time does not mean it is right.
I do not think he meant what he wrote. ANY drug conviction is a forever disqualifier, but felonies over 5 years are OK? For example, 16 yo tried as adult for MJ possession and is convicted is forever barred, but guy who murdered someone (with gun no less), is OK to carry 5 years after conviction....nitrogen wrote:So Martha Stewart and G. Gordon Liddy are both dangers to society because of their crimes, and should be denied their right to carry?Russell wrote:If you've been convicted of a felony or a class A or B misdemeanor in the past 5 years, or are mentally incapable or have EVER been convicted of drug possession, you should NOT be allowed to carry a handgun, or purchase one
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