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Workplace Policy
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 4:30 am
by Nintao
I am not currently certified to conceal (although I will be soon enough), but is this enough to keep my from carrying at my place of employment (there are no 30.06 etc signs posted keeping others from carrying). It just seams to me they want to keep employees form carrying, while customers and potential BGs can.
FIREARMS
The company prohibits all persons who enter company property from carrying a firearm of any kind onto the property regardless of whether the person is licensed to carry the firearm. Legal, chemical dispensing devises, such as pepper spray that are sold commercially for personal protection are not prohibited by this policy.
This policy applies to all company employees, contract and temporary employees, and contractors on company property, regardless of whether they are licensed to carry a concealed firearm. An exception to this policy may be police officers or other persons who have been given consent by the company to carry a firearm on company property
So I can bring pepper spray to a gunfight :p.
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 7:35 am
by RPBrown
As it is written, you can still carry legally. However, if you went through any orientation, and they mentioned the no weapons policy verbally, it will be illeagal.
Also, if caught, as written you would most likely be terminated
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 9:33 pm
by kauboy
Wait, so you don't currently have your CHL, right?
If that is the case, then it would be illegal for you to carry at your place of employment, or anywhere else for that matter where you are not the owner or have not been given consent to carry by the owner.
However, once you do get your CHL, this policy is not legally enforceable on you. By that I mean, you cannot be charged, but as stated, you will be fired.
The only way for you to be given legal notice by your employer is:
1.) Any verbal statement, from an authority speaking on the owner's behalf, that firearms cannot be brought on site.
2.) Any handbook, pamphlet, etc that has been presented to you that has the exact wording stated in 30.06 (whether or not you have to sign it will be left to the courts)
3.) Any posted sign that has the same legal wording, and also adheres to the format spelled out in the law.
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 1:33 am
by WarHawk-AVG
kauboy wrote:Wait, so you don't currently have your CHL, right?
If that is the case, then it would be illegal for you to carry at your place of employment, or anywhere else for that matter where you are not the owner or have not been given consent to carry by the owner.
However, once you do get your CHL, this policy is not legally enforceable on you. By that I mean, you cannot be charged, but as stated, you will be fired.
The only way for you to be given legal notice by your employer is:
1.) Any verbal statement, from an authority speaking on the owner's behalf, that firearms cannot be brought on site.
2.) Any handbook, pamphlet, etc that has been presented to you that has the exact wording stated in 30.06 (whether or not you have to sign it will be left to the courts)
3.) Any posted sign that has the same legal wording, and also adheres to the format spelled out in the law.
Well a Code of Business conduct you are required to review and electronically sign (physically sign sometimes) is still a binding contract between your employer...You can be fired, are you willing to risk your livelyhood by carrying a firearm in your workplace is the question
Legally you won't go to jail (unless they have a valid 30.06 sign on the doors)..but you can be adminstratively punished up to and including termination
Texas is a right to work state...an employer can fire you for any reason