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I'm a surgeon. One of my patients is a paraplegic. We got to chatting about hunting(he's an avid hunter-crossbow and rifle) and moved on to handguns. Turns out he got his CHL after his accident when he felt he needed someway of protecting himself being wheelchair bound.

Seems like a great idea and made me wonder if there were any organizations that helped with disabled folks who want to be be able to protect themselves?

Get in touch w/ flintknapper if he does not jump in here pretty soon.

sar wrote:I'm a surgeon. One of my patients is a paraplegic. We got to chatting about hunting(he's an avid hunter-crossbow and rifle) and moved on to handguns. Turns out he got his CHL after his accident when he felt he needed someway of protecting himself being wheelchair bound.

Seems like a great idea and made me wonder if there were any organizations that helped with disabled folks who want to be be able to protect themselves?

Hi SAR,

If by your post...you mean assist folks with arming themselves against the use of deadly force (I.E. pistol and training) then I can be of no help.

If you are alluding to empty hands techniques and the use of close contact weapons, then yes. In Shen Chuan...we offer instruction to those with disabilities based on techniques we use for seated and disadvantaged positions.

As an RN who has worked in Rehabilitation for some time now I wish there were more about this out there.

I don't know if there is a Texas organization but I would be shocked if the NRA didn't offer something. I am not immediately finding any specific program listed but I'd like to see some of the major name trainers taking on the challenge of developing a program for people who can't walk, have use of only one hand or otherwise.

Obviously certain situations do call for a restriction TEMPORARILY. Certain kinds of brain damage leave a person with very poor impulse control. Someone who can't remember to use a walker for safety isn't in shape to make decisions about pulling a trigger except under supervision.

I have witnessed (In Denver) a quadraplegic, ventilator dependent patient being given a chance to fire a modified rifle from a mount. I have also seen some photographs recently in a magazine of air pistols being used to rebuild fine motor control.

These are use of firearms but not exactly self-defense/CHL, though.

flintknapper wrote: In Shen Chuan...we offer....

I had that once, very spicy!

Hyunchback wrote:I have witnessed (In Denver) a quadraplegic, ventilator dependent patient being given a chance to fire a modified rifle from a mount. I have also seen some photographs recently in a magazine of air pistols being used to rebuild fine motor control.

These are use of firearms but not exactly self-defense/CHL, though.

I can't go into detail at this time, but the NRA is very interested in shooting opportunities for the disabled, whether for sport or self-defense.

Thanks for bring this up SAR and for your input Hynchback. The NRA Personal Protection Outside the Home has a very short segment on carry methods for people in a wheelchair, but it's limited to that aspect of concealed carry.

This is an area that must be addressed. If we could get some input/expertise from medical people, I would be very happy to get with some instructors I know (and some I only know of) to see if a program could be developed. Let me know if you folks are interested. This would take quite some time and a great deal of thought and input from medical and rehab experts.

Chas.

Hi, I was looking for "disabled" related shooting information..as it pertains to CHL. If you are in a wheelchair or on crutches, the entire dynamic changes. I find myself using both wheelchair and crutches depending on the situation. There are places to conceal in a wheelchair that "able bodied" (or AB's as we say!:O) can't utilize..so being a crip can have it's advantages!

If there are others who would like to discuss CHL in the context of being "disabled" be sure to contact me! As for everyone here, feel free to call me disabled, crip, whatever you're comfortable with. Nothing bothers me. I've found once we get past that, a good exchange can get started!

I've known a couple of folks that kept themselves sane in wheelchairs by shooting, but they were good shooters before they got hurt. I've wondered if there might be a good resource for teaching someone who was disabled before taking an interest in shooting.

beaucoup ammo wrote:As for everyone here, feel free to call me disabled, crip, whatever you're comfortable with.

Get one of these, and we'll call you "Mobile Artillery Platform."

"Your honor, I had no intention of killing the mugger, I was just using the recoil to retreat quickly."

Good Grief! I'd better have the breaks on!!

If you set the brakes and fired that thing, you'd probably wind up flat on your back! The recoil would act on a line well above the axles and the torque would cause rotation about those axles.

You could conceivably experience the same effect even if the brakes weren't locked. You'd at least rock back a bit before the wheels started rolling.

You're right! Funny story..true. Many years ago a bunch of use went to a friend's ranch to shoot. Someone had .44 magnum and we all wanted a try at it. My turn came, I stood up out of the chair to get a stance. Unknown to me, one of the guys got behind me and raised his arms as you would for "a fair catch!" Sure enough, it knocked me back, and had he not been there I'd a been on my rear!

LarryH wrote:If you set the brakes and fired that thing, you'd probably wind up flat on your back! The recoil would act on a line well above the axles and the torque would cause rotation about those axles.

You could conceivably experience the same effect even if the brakes weren't locked. You'd at least rock back a bit before the wheels started rolling.

Us old redlegs would advise you to dig in the spades first.

:O) This has got me itchin' for the range. Think I'll go tomorrow if this blasted wind dies down and it's not too cold. Snubbie's and "K" frame .357's only! My ratio on the model 65-3 is about 1 out of 5 is .357. That's the load I keep at the house and it's good to remind yourself what that thing can do (recoil!)

Charles L. Cotton wrote:
This is an area that must be addressed. If we could get some input/expertise from medical people, I would be very happy to get with some instructors I know (and some I only know of) to see if a program could be developed. Let me know if you folks are interested. This would take quite some time and a great deal of thought and input from medical and rehab experts.

Chas.

Count me in, to the degree I can.

Sorry I didn't spot this thread moving earlier.