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So you think its a good shoot?

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 8:42 pm
by stevie_d_64
The following is an email I got from a guy I work with and who happens to be a CHL instructor...

Its safe to say that even though you may not be under any legal jeopardy (as in this case), private companies may, and will probably have a problem with you...

At first, I felt a bit miffed about the policy, but I figure I'd probably let it go, and never go back and patronize a business that refuses to accept that there are people like us who take the responsibility serious...
Hi Guys,

I closed on the 5th wheel travel trailer yesterday and should get it set up this weekend. It will be nice to be out of the hotel. Actually, I am out of the hotel … Thrown out… I am staying at RW's home for the rest of the week. R says he does not mind if I shoot. Unlike the hotel… It seems the Candlewood Suites hotel policy is to throw you out if you shoot anything. They didn't tell me that when I checked in. They didn't have a sign. ☺

The week before Christmas, thieves broke in to my pick-up and took a couple of thousand dollars of my stuff. Two pistols, a camera, etc.. I never leave guns in the truck at a hotel. Never.. Except that one night. I had not slept in a couple of days and was beyond exhausted. When I got to the room I remembered the guns and thought I would make another trip down in a minute or two. Once I sat down though I fell asleep. I left the guns, and lost them. I was pretty much just as angry at myself as at the thieves.

So… After the holidays I moved to a third floor room that faced the parking lot, started parking my truck in a place with the best angle of fire from my room, and I put alarms in my truck that would alert me in my room.

This past Sunday evening at 8pm the alarms sounded. I opened the window and there were two guys in my truck. One on the driver's side was working under the dash screwing up the wiring. The other was tearing into the steering column. They had come in two vehicles. A convertible Mustang pulled along beside my truck and a Ford pick-up behind my truck.

I yelled "HEY!!! GET OUT OF MY TRUCK!!!" . The guy on the far side ducked down and ran to the waiting pickup. The guy on my side ran to the front of the Mustang. He stopped and pointed up at me. I really did not feel a threat. I think he was pointing me out to the others in the car. When he pointed, I brought my 40 caliber Glock up to center mass on the guy, focused on the front sight, and started taking up slack. The guy was dumb struck. He clearly knew I was going to shoot him dead center. He did not move an inch. Like I said, I really did not feel a threat. Oh well, by this time the decision had already been made to shoot...

I fired three rounds. Bam, align sights, bam… align sights, BAM!!! All closely timed and closely grouped. Dead center… Into the hood of the Mustang.

They all were in a hurry to leave. They seemed to have been having such a good time before I shot their car. I went down to check out my truck and apparently I was not the only one who called the police.

The officers were very friendly. Said these were gang members… They took statements, descriptions of the vehicles, and gave me a case report number for my insurance.

I went back up to my room and tried to call it a night, but I was pretty wired up on adrenalin by this time (great feeling by the way). Right after 11, two officers hammered my door yelling "POLICE!!! OPEN UP!! Much more adrenalin… I did some yelling back, (i.e.: “What county is this?� HARRIS! “Who’s the Mayor?� WHITE!) and after being assured that they actually were police and just wanted to talk, I opened up. They were two different (and large) guys and had been called by the hotel manager to evict me. I refused to leave. The cops told the manager to leave. Once gone, they told me that I was in no trouble, and that the room was my home, and I had every right to protect my self and my property.

To try and wind down, I had swallowed two Benadryl capsules and drank a couple of large shots of vodka. I told the officers this and told them that I refused to drive anywhere. They agreed and told me they would fix it so I could stay the remainder of the night and leave in the morning.

If I had known that it was completely OK to shoot, I had two full magazines… I am most upset that I can't stay there anymore. Man, I have paid much more for hunting and not enjoyed near as much...

Earl

ps
Several people have ask. These are the alarms and the web address. I used velcro to attach the sending units to my driver ' s door and one on the right rear door and kept the receivers in my room.

http://www.carolwrightgifts.com/cwg_v2/ ... 98#SUGGEST

Re: So you think its a good shoot?

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:05 pm
by lws380
NO!

He said he did not feel threatened. If I think I have to shoot at an object to scare someone, I probably should not have drawn.

Re: So you think its a good shoot?

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:10 pm
by HankB
This makes interesting reading . . . but someone should remind him of the old adage, "Silence is golden."

Re: So you think its a good shoot?

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:43 pm
by Crossfire
So, if I understand this story correctly, the management of the Candlewood Suites is so hearltess that they would forcibly evict a legally armed citzen in the middle of the night after he has been a victim of a crime? Well, I am putting this on my list of places never to stay again.

Oh, and BTW, this chain is also part of Holiday Inn, Holiday Inn Express, Staybridge, Intercontinental, and Crowne Plaza. Just in case you wanted to know.

Re: So you think its a good shoot?

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:18 pm
by phddan
Good shoot?
Nah, shot a perfectly good mustang, and missed all the perps. Seems like he needs more practice.

Dan

Re: So you think its a good shoot?

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:30 pm
by nedmoore
So what product on the link alerted you that your truck was being broke in to?

Re: So you think its a good shoot?

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:30 pm
by boomerang
I wonder if the manager was tipping off the gang of car thieves and getting a cut.

Re: So you think its a good shoot?

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 2:52 am
by flb_78
boomerang wrote:I wonder if the manager was tipping off the gang of car thieves and getting a cut.
DING DING DING DING!!!

maybe not the manager, but the night desk guy.

Re: So you think its a good shoot?

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 9:21 am
by lawrnk
Post the number and name of this moron manager. I'll call him this weekend.

Re: So you think its a good shoot?

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 3:24 pm
by stevie_d_64
llwatson wrote:So, if I understand this story correctly, the management of the Candlewood Suites is so hearltess that they would forcibly evict a legally armed citzen in the middle of the night after he has been a victim of a crime? Well, I am putting this on my list of places never to stay again.

Oh, and BTW, this chain is also part of Holiday Inn, Holiday Inn Express, Staybridge, Intercontinental, and Crowne Plaza. Just in case you wanted to know.
Yep, this is my main sentiment about the entire incident...

Its too bad, I really liked staying at the Crockett Hotel (Holiday Inn bought them out a few years ago) in San Antonio...

Re: So you think its a good shoot?

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 3:34 pm
by stevie_d_64
Here's some inside info...

The area in question is not a very bad looking part of town...It is though one of the highest crime areas in Houston/Harris County...Earl was staying at an extended stay place that was convienient for him to our work location...

We are a stone's throw away from a Home Depot who's parking lot is full of "day workers" that mill about and congregate in the area, all day long...They tend to scatter when "La Migre" poke around every now and then...

So all in all it is a rather tenuous balance of crime and money floating around these parts...You do what you can (as best you can) in the interest of the almighty $$$...

I think Earl did ok...I know for a fact he could have...But he didn't...He told me so...The police in this case were magnificent in their support of the defender in this case as well...

We can certainly debate the whole idea behind whether he felt threatened or not, and that being the "only" (to which I do not agree) reason DF was justified in this case...Remember, this was at night...And we know what the parameters are in a case like this per the law of our state...Sure, you can make a choice, and one was made...So if everyone walked (ran) away breathing, well, I would say that might be a good lesson learned...Maybe is squelched the crime in that area for a night or two...And if the price was a bunch of holes (in a criminals) in a Mustang...I think thats a pretty good price...

But thats just my opinion...

Re: So you think its a good shoot?

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 4:06 pm
by LedJedi
good shoot, bad target!

I'd have felt much worse about shooting a classic mustang, honestly.

I could see not really wanting to shoot at his vehicle while they were inside. Blood can be a pain in the butt if he hasn't scotchguarded.

I honestly probably would have been more likely silently head down to my truck as fast as possible to confront them and stopping by the front desk if possible to ask them to call 911.

Doubt I would have shot at the risk of hitting my own truck or making a mess inside.

BRAVO to the cops.

Re: So you think its a good shoot?

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 4:43 pm
by LedJedi
Russell wrote:He is VERY lucky he didn't get charged with something.
what exactly would he have been charged with? protecting his property?

I say the HOTEL is VERY LUCKY to have him as a guest.