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Re: Carrying at political speeches
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 10:59 am
by Hyunchback
Quite frankly if the politician doesn't want to trust me with a gun when he's talking to me then I don't want him in office, ever.
My money and my vote don't care for cowards.
Re: Carrying at political speeches
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 11:05 am
by seamusTX
I went to see Bill Clinton* in Galveston Monday. There was no security except (apparently) three Secret Service men who stood behind him most of the time, some state police, and a lot of local police officers. Anyone in the crowd could have been carrying a concealed weapon.
I doubt the Secret Service would shoot someone who was printing. They would probably hustle the VIP into an armored vehicle and have the cops deal with the suspect.
*I know, I know; but I had never seen a current or former President live.
- Jim
Re: Carrying at political speeches
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 11:17 am
by anygunanywhere
They should have just put up a gun buster sign and a no firearms allowed sign and they would have been fine. We all know that gun free zones work.
Anygunanywhere
Re: Carrying at political speeches
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 11:47 am
by 45 4 life
My Thoughts,
1. I disagree with tax payers dollars paying for secret service protection for someone running for office. Let their campaigns pay for private security if they are worried. We should not pay for their security while our university students are always unprotected. I have not heard of any mass killings at political rallys lately, have you?
2. If there are metal screenings at the entry's and I cannot pass with a CHL I will go home, and concentrate on another candidate. If they don't want the gun, then they don't want me, and I don't want them.
3. Is reunion arena property of The City of Dallas. Is it always posted? Did the democrats pay a use fee? Is this SOP for all rally's?
4. It would however surprise me if this group gave a second thought to alienating CHLer's in Texas. Based on what we know of Barack, and his supporters 2A views, and what they know of our views, they probably were not expecting our participation.
Re: Carrying at political speeches
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 12:41 pm
by gregthehand
I wouldn't go see that guy give a speech anyway if you paid me....

Re: Carrying at political speeches
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 1:01 pm
by KBCraig
Reunion is owned by the City of Dallas. Dallas PD officers were conducting the screening. They could not legally bar armed CHLs, no matter who the rally was for. Unfortunately, there's no penalty if they do so anyway.
This being an Obama crowd, I doubt there were any CHLs attending.
Link to the story:
http://www.star-telegram.com/667/story/486413.html
Re: Carrying at political speeches
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 1:31 pm
by DoubleJ
KBCraig wrote:Reunion is owned by the City of Dallas. Dallas PD officers were conducting the screening. They could not legally bar armed CHLs, no matter who the rally was for. Unfortunately, there's no penalty if they do so anyway.
This being an Obama crowd, I doubt there were any CHLs attending.
Link to the story:
http://www.star-telegram.com/667/story/486413.html
sometimes, you have to scope out the enemy...
Re: Carrying at political speeches
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 1:52 pm
by 45 4 life
I do not think we need to scope that out anymore. His ideas are pretty clear to me.
Re: Carrying at political speeches
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 3:39 pm
by Liko81
Russell wrote:If there were no 30.06 signs, it seems that if you were in that line you would have been able to carry legally into the speech.
But what do you guys think? Would it have been worth it with all of the secret service around? An accidental print or failure to conceal could wind up with you immediately being shot.
Public event. Guns aren't allowed, 30.06 or otherwise, because it falls under 46.03 or 46.035 (not sure which it is, but it's one of the two).
The Secret Service would not have shot unless a weapon was drawn and brandished. You may get a rather large black-suited guy pinning you bodily to the floor of Reunion Arena if someone notices a concealed weapon, but the Secret Service have a force continuum just like any other civilian security force.
Re: Carrying at political speeches
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 3:52 pm
by gregthehand
Russell wrote:
Hey greg, I see you have a SHSU logo in your signature, glad to see another Huntsvillian here!
Unfortunatley not anymore.

Once I graduated my company moved me to South Louisiana. I'm from Conroe and a 3rd generation Bearkat. Grandad went and taught there before WWII, mom went there, uncle went there, multiple cousins went there and all graduated!
Re: Carrying at political speeches
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 3:57 pm
by seamusTX
46.035(c) prohibits CHL holders from carry weapons at meetings of governmental entities (city council, for example), and it applies only if a 30.06 sign is posted.
There is no statutory way that CHL holders can be kept out of an event of this type in a city-owned property. It's just one of those facts of life that it can happen anyway.
- Jim
Re: Carrying at political speeches
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 4:50 pm
by flb_78
Hyunchback wrote:Quite frankly if the politician doesn't want to trust me with a gun when he's talking to me then I don't want him in office, ever.
My money and my vote don't care for cowards.
I saw a video where 1 candidate actually went into a gun shop and talked to folks there, he even handled a firearm.
