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Beware" Anti-Gunners in Pro-Gun Clothing
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 12:24 pm
by Charles L. Cotton
Here is an article that appears on the NRA's website about the so-called American Hunters and Shooters Association (AHSA). They are a fraud and this tactic is despicable. Make your political pitch to the American people and see if they agree or disagree. But of course, they have been doing that and losing, so to those without a moral compass it appears that the end truly justifies any means.
Chas.
http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Read.aspx?ID=3848
NRA wrote:"Pro-Gun" Group Endorses Most Anti-Gun Candidate
Friday, April 18, 2008
As this unusual campaign season has unfolded, we’ve seen the candidates ratcheting up their politically expedient rhetoric in an attempt to distinguish themselves as the “candidate of choice� for every constituency, while testing the far reaches of credibility in the process. We’ve heard blatantly anti-gun politicians claim to be supportive of the Second Amendment. We’ve seen hypocrisy, and we’ve heard double-speak and insults to our intelligence.
When it comes to campaign rhetoric on the Second Amendment, we’ve seen a change in the way many anti-gun politicians campaign. Rather than talk openly about their desire to ban guns, register gun owners, and regulate firearms sales, anti-gun politicians talk about their “support� for sportsmen. Rather than admit they oppose the individual right protected by the Second Amendment, they claim they “support firearm ownership for hunting.�
This is all an effort to mislead and divide the gun owning community and to dilute gun owners’ political impact. To achieve their goals new organizations have been formed, with names designed to confuse gun owners and hide their real agenda. The American Hunters and Shooters Association (AHSA) is one of those groups.
As we’ve reported in the past, AHSA was created to provide political cover for anti-gun politicians by allowing them to claim support from a “sportsmen’s� group. In truth, the anti-gun credentials of AHSA’s leadership is well documented. For instance, AHSA president Ray Schoenke has a long history of giving political donations to some of the nations most anti-gun politicians, including Al Gore, John Kerry, Barbara Boxer, Bill Clinton, Dianne Feinstein, and Ted Kennedy. In 2000, Schoenke donated $5,000 to Handgun Control, Inc. (now the Brady Campaign) and the Ray and Holly Schoenke Foundation also made donations to the Brady Campaign. AHSA Board member John Rosenthal remains the leader of Stop Handgun Violence, a Massachusetts anti-gun group. And one of the leading organizers of AHSA is Bob Ricker, who has served as a paid expert witness against gun manufacturers in a number of reckless lawsuits. And that’s just the tip of the iceberg.
In keeping with their “pro-gun� stance, this week, AHSA did the last thing one would expect of a pro-gun group—they endorsed Democratic hopeful Barack Obama for President!
In a statement on the AHSA website titled “Obama: He ‘gets it,’� Schoenke announced the endorsement, saying that Senator Obama’s voting record has clearly demonstrated his commitment to the Second Amendment! Are you kidding? Obama’s hostility toward the Second Amendment is so well known and well documented that in the 2004 elections, NRA’s Political Victory Fund (NRA-PVF) issued Obama a well-deserved “F� grade. Obama is anti-gun. Period. And no amount of sugar coating or spin by AHSA will change that fact.
The AHSA statement closes with the line, “Senator Obama will be a strong and authentic voice for America’s hunters and shooters and it is with great pleasure that we endorse his candidacy.� While typical of the rhetoric coming out of AHSA, that line is nothing less than ridiculous.
AHSA would be more correctly called the “American Association for the Protection of Anti-Gun Politicians.� No gun owner or sportsman should take the group seriously or fall prey to its carefully crafted lies and deceptions, as clearly demonstrated by their endorsement of Barack Obama.
Copyright 2008, National Rifle Association of America, Institute for Legislative Action.
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Re: Beware" Anti-Gunners in Pro-Gun Clothing
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 1:56 pm
by bdickens
Despicable liars!
Re: Beware" Anti-Gunners in Pro-Gun Clothing
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 2:20 pm
by Keith B
Wolves in sheeps clothing, pretending to be sheep dogs.
Re: Beware" Anti-Gunners in Pro-Gun Clothing
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 2:22 pm
by Tactical_Texan_CHL
That's playing dirty pool.
Re: Beware" Anti-Gunners in Pro-Gun Clothing
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 3:53 pm
by flintknapper
AHSA
Re: Beware" Anti-Gunners in Pro-Gun Clothing
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 4:28 pm
by longhorn_92
Re: Beware" Anti-Gunners in Pro-Gun Clothing
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 6:35 pm
by longtooth
Tactical_Texan_CHL wrote:That's playing dirty pool.
Never saw the antis play any other way. Never heard a stitch of truth from them either.
Re: Beware" Anti-Gunners in Pro-Gun Clothing
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 6:09 pm
by stevie_d_64
“Obama: He ‘gets it,’�
No...He won't!
Re: Beware" Anti-Gunners in Pro-Gun Clothing
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 1:21 pm
by aardwolf
Boy howdy! Look at some CHLs here arguing for restrictions on RKBA.
Re: Beware" Anti-Gunners in Pro-Gun Clothing
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 7:53 am
by frankie_the_yankee
aardwolf wrote:Boy howdy! Look at some CHLs here arguing for restrictions on RKBA.
Read the Heller briefs and you will find that the most distinguished scholars in the pro-2A movement allow for some restrictions on 2A rights. In fact, you will not find a brief that argues that the 2A is "absolute" such that no regulation of any kind would be constitutional. (At least I haven't found one, and I have read all of them AFAIK.)
And it's a good thing too, because if Heller was arguing an absolutist position we would not only lose the case but we would lose all of our 2A rights along with it.
None of this has anything to do with, or changes the fact that, the AHSA is a true anti gun group, funded by anti gun and anti 2A advocates, with no discernable grass roots support, and that it deserves to be rejected by all gun rights advocates.
The NRA has 4 million dues-paying members. None of the anti gun groups can match that or even come anywhere near it. AHSA, the VPC, The Brady Campaign and groups like them are mostly phone banks funded by the George Soros crowd, with a few front people and a few paid employees (fundraisers).
And the politicians know it.
They say that the NRA and the AARP are the two strongest lobbies in Washington. And for good reason. Both mave millions of living, breathing, voting members. The best thing we can all do to increase the strength of the NRA and increase its ability to protect and enhance our gun rights is to do everything we can to boost its membership.
However strong it is at 4 million members, it, and we, will be stronger still at 5 or 6 million.
Re: Beware" Anti-Gunners in Pro-Gun Clothing
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 10:16 am
by thankGod
However, the many millions on either side are only as strong as those that vote. I am a member of both the NRA and AARP, so that means I get to vote twice.
Re: Beware" Anti-Gunners in Pro-Gun Clothing
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 10:21 am
by anygunanywhere
thankGod wrote:
However, the many millions on either side are only as strong as those that vote. I am a member of both the NRA and AARP, so that means I get to vote twice.
I will allow my AARP membership to expire.
They are one very anti-RKBA organization.
Anygunanywhere
Re: Beware" Anti-Gunners in Pro-Gun Clothing
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 10:40 am
by dukesean
anygunanywhere wrote:
I will allow my AARP membership to expire.
They are one very anti-RKBA organization.
Anygunanywhere
Really? Wow that does not make a lick of sense, considering that the people who most need an equalizer when violently confronted are those less able to physically defend themselves, ie our older population and women.
Re: Beware" Anti-Gunners in Pro-Gun Clothing
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 11:08 am
by anygunanywhere
dukesean wrote:Really?
Yup. Really.
Their leadership is in step with the leadership of the democrats who want to remove our RKBA. You can do a little internet searching if you like, but the AARP antigun stance is well known on a lot of boards people like us frequent.
Anygun
Re: Beware" Anti-Gunners in Pro-Gun Clothing
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 11:09 am
by frankie_the_yankee
The AARP is certainly anti gun. For this reason, I have never joined despite their repeated mailings and never-ending requests.
When I cited them in my post, it wasn't to endorse them in any way. Just to point out that they are always listed among the most powerful lobbies in Washington due to their huge number of members.
The basic principle is that in DC, numbers rule.