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TX CHL Crime Stats
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 6:50 pm
by tomneal
2006 Conviction Rates from the DPS web site
http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/administra ... rt2006.pdf
Towards the bottom of the list:
"UNL CARRY HANDGUN LIC HOLDER"
and
"UNL CARRYING WEAPON"
Did these guys forget their license at home and got busted?
What about the one guy:
UNL POSS METAL OR BODY ARMOR BY FELON
How did a Felon get a CHL?
What about this guy:
PROH WEAPON SWITCHBLADE/KNUCKLES
I'll bet he wishes he just carried a gun instead.
Just makes you want to go "Hummmmmm".
Re: TX CHL Crime Stats
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 8:00 pm
by seamusTX
No one who knows is talking.
The only explanation that makes sense to me is that these were plea bargains from more serious offenses. The category UNL CARRY HANDGUN LIC HOLDER has 22 convictions of non-CHLs. How could that be?
- Jim
Re: TX CHL Crime Stats
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 8:10 pm
by WildBill
seamusTX wrote:The category UNL CARRY HANDGUN LIC HOLDER has 22 convictions of non-CHLs. How could that be? - Jim
Maybe they had expired CHLs or didn't ID themselves to LEO or didn't have the plastic with them or had non-resident or out of state CHL?
Re: TX CHL Crime Stats
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 8:19 pm
by seamusTX
That's possible, but a person who does not have a valid CHL (expired or from a state without reciprocity is guilty of PC 46.02 UCW, not PC 46.035 UCW by a license holder.
I find it hard to believe that someone who left their valid license at home would be convicted. Arrested, yes, but I think most judges would dismiss the charge, as they do for people who forget their driver licenses.
- Jim
Re: TX CHL Crime Stats
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 8:23 pm
by WildBill
seamusTX wrote:I find it hard to believe that someone who left their valid license at home would be convicted. Arrested, yes, but I think most judges would dismiss the charge, as they do for people who forget their driver licenses. - Jim
I would think so too, but I can't think of any better explanation.
Re: TX CHL Crime Stats
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 8:29 pm
by seamusTX
Like I said, it could be a plea bargain.
Carrying in a bar or school is a felony. The DA might decide to offer a misdemeanor plea in place of it. Most people will fight a felony in court, and DAs have to budget their prosecutions to some extent.
- Jim
Re: TX CHL Crime Stats
Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 3:38 pm
by Mr.Scott
seamusTX wrote:That's possible, but a person who does not have a valid CHL (expired or from a state without reciprocity is guilty of PC 46.02 UCW, not PC 46.035 UCW by a license holder.
I find it hard to believe that someone who left their valid license at home would be convicted. Arrested, yes, but I think most judges would dismiss the charge, as they do for people who forget their driver licenses.
- Jim
Depends on the judge.
Re: TX CHL Crime Stats
Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 3:41 pm
by seamusTX
Do you know of anyone who had a valid CHL and was convicted because he forgot to carry it?
- Jim