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Charles L. Cotton wrote:Get your CHL, practice, carry your gun (a real gun) everywhere, practice, get your loved ones to do likewise, oh yeah, practice! Make it realistic practice; i.e. shoot on the move, shoot at moving targets, shoot at multiple assailants. Then pray you never have to use those skills.

Charles L. Cotton wrote:There was a short report on the news last night dealing with captured video of terrorists training for "small operations" that involved two or three men entering a room and shooting anyone and everyone.

Charles L. Cotton wrote:Get your CHL, practice, carry your gun (a real gun) everywhere, practice, get your loved ones to do likewise, oh yeah, practice! Make it realistic practice; i.e. shoot on the move, shoot at moving targets, shoot at multiple assailants. Then pray you never have to use those skills.

Chas.

worldnetdaily.com wrote:New al-Qaida training tape shows another side of terror
Captured video reveals plans for home break-ins, killing police, drive-bys, golf course assassinations

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/artic ... E_ID=28819

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Posted: September 04, 2002
1:00 am Eastern

By Joseph Farah
© 2008 WorldNetDaily.com

An al-Qaida training videotape, captured in Afghanistan, shows Osama bin Laden's terrorists are not only planning attacks with weapons of mass destruction but are preparing to kill Americans with drive-by shootings and home break-ins, through ambushes of law-enforcement officers and targeted assassinations on golf courses, WorldNetDaily has learned.

The videotape was produced, U.S. analysts believe, for al-Qaida's internal use and did not appear to be an external propaganda device.

U.S. intelligence considers the tape much more significant in what it reveals about al-Qaida's modus operandi than the highly publicized video purchased and broadcast last month by CNN. U.S. forces found a cache of 64 al-Qaida tapes while combing caves and hideouts in Afghanistan. Analysts were surprised by some of what they saw in the latest video and believe they employ terrorist tactics and techniques meant for export to America and other nations.

"None of these training scenarios depicts the type of fighting that al-Qaida engages in within Afghanistan," noted John Holschen of Insights Training Center, who produced a report on the tape for military and law enforcement officials.

The training video shows al-Qaida operatives practicing the following kinds of assaults:


using pickup trucks with shooters concealed in the bed of the trucks;
using motorcycles as a shooting platform for drive-bys and assassinations;
execution of prisoners;
ambushes of law-enforcement officers;
residential assassinations;
assassination on a golf course using a rocket-propelled grenade and rifle fire;
drive-up kidnapping of target walking on a street;
use of tunnels, storm drains and sewers for infiltration during urban raids;
rappelling from rooftops of buildings to make entry on upper floors;
use of motorcycles for grenade attacks; and
raids on buildings with large numbers of occupants – perhaps schools or office buildings.
Analysts point out that all scenarios involving prisoners and hostages ended in execution. None included plans for negotiated settlements for escape by terrorists.

"They plan to kill the prisoners and die in place," wrote Holschen.

The "perfect day" as seen by al-Qaida would combine attacks designed to produce a maximum number of casualties with attacks that would give them the opportunity to get "face time" on the news channels to deliver their rhetoric, explained Holschen.

"The major take-home lesson here is that although the enemy is known to be seeking the ability and opportunity to use weapons of mass destruction and of an unconventional nature, such as hijacked airliners, they are also spending a lot of time training to carry out attacks the old-fashioned way – attacks executed by small groups of dedicated personnel equipped with little more than small arms," explained Holschen.

Hostages, prisoners and anyone else identified as a target or problem by al-Qaida terrorist operatives will be killed, say those who viewed the tape. There is no point in complying with orders, they say. Those who do not resist ultimately will be rewarded with ritual execution in front of television cameras, according to the tactics and techniques captured on this video.

In one scenario on the video, terrorists pretend to be stranded on a six-lane highway, their vehicle disabled. When a police officer stops to assist, the driver blows his horn. Another occupant of the vehicle opens fire on the police officer with a rifle. In other scenarios, shooters were concealed in the trunk of the car. When the terrorists were picked up by accomplices in a getaway car, the original vehicle was blown up, apparently to destroy evidence.

In another scenario, an innocuous-looking terrorist knocks on the door of a residence, standing in view of the resident and answering questions through a closed door. When the resident opens the door, the terrorist immediately draws his weapon and fires, emptying his weapon into the victim.

In the golf course assassination, the target was on the green, near the hole. A rocket-propelled grenade is fired at a vehicle adjacent to the green, perhaps a security detail. Then the target of the assassination is killed with rifle fire.

When asked if these techniques are intended for use in the U.S., one military intelligence operative said without hesitation, "Yes."

Worldnet Daily wrote:Analysts point out that all scenarios involving prisoners and hostages ended in execution. None included plans for negotiated settlements for escape by terrorists.

Excaliber wrote:

Worldnet Daily wrote:Analysts point out that all scenarios involving prisoners and hostages ended in execution. None included plans for negotiated settlements for escape by terrorists.

Something you should all be aware of:

Some of this training reportedly includes the expectation of sporadic armed resistance from either LEO's or CHL holders, and tactics that focus on concentrating overwhelming firepower on these folks until resistance ends.

The Annoyed Man wrote:

Excaliber wrote: So, if you run into them in real life, what recourse do you have? If they are going to kill you anyway, and if they are not going to negotiate, and if you are armed and able to resist, even for a short time, then wouldn't the best thing you could do be to try and take some of them with you on the hope that the distraction you cause to them might provide an opportunity for armed responders to execute some kind of tactics?

Charles L. Cotton wrote:The "walk in and shoot everyone" tactic was used in Israel for a while, but when the armed Israelis started shooting the snot out of them, they switched to timed or remote control bombs, then to suicide bombers. Bombs haven't been used in the U.S. yet for a number of reasons, not the least of which is that the material is harder to get here. (I'm talking about efficient explosives that are suitable for vests, briefcases, etc.) I hope this "plan" isn't put into action, but they aren't training for nothing and someone in the terrorist training camps must have taken notice of the impact of the "D.C. Sniper."

Chas.