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Vote here to support TX. Teacher's rights to carry on campus.

http://www.setxhomepage.com

You need to remove the . to get the the website. Once there I can't find the place to vote for this.

I'll make it known here that I fully support it. Is that good enough?

I fixed the link. The poll is on the bottom left if you scroll down.

Welcome to the forum Pawdog. Thanks for the link!

Thanks Keith.

I now voted. We're ahead at 67% (of course there are less than 400 votes at this point.)

Welll, 9:30 now & the poll is a Micy Ds.
Guess we were winning by too great a margin.

I am sooo for charging for dipping sauce when one doesn't order McNuggets. One might say I am Pro-Nug.


Is it coincidental that nug is Gun spelled backward? ..... In my best Keanu Reeves: "Woah"

I guess I missed it too... all I found was some silly thing about McNuggets.

-geo

Hummmmmm, I have searched that site over, and still can't find it.

My answer to this morning's Dallas Morning News editorial declaring carry by teachers to be "courting disaster."

Even forgetting several other gratuitous errors and fact and logic in your editorial, the problem with your “common sense” test is that it has consistently failed to be sensible.

Gun free zones do not work, have not worked, and do not even come close to providing “safe havens where guns simply have no place.” Long history shows that “gun free zones” are what should not exist, they are breeding grounds for massacres of defenseless innocents: think about it for a minute; From Luby’s to Virginia Tech, the greatest portion of such mass killings has taken place in venues where law abiding citizens were not allowed to exercise their right to defend themselves. Following your logic, gun shows and sporting goods stores should be the places where such things take place, not “safe havens.”

And where have we seen counter examples? At New Life Church, in Colorado Springs, where a “volunteer security guard” carrying under her concealed carry license put a stop to an incipient tragedy by shooting the shooter; at Appalachian School of Law, where two students armed themselves in response to an attack and short circuited it; and at Merkaz Harav Yeshiva in Jerusalem where one civilian with a gun halted another terrorist in his tracks.

Nobody is asking, despite your plaints to the contrary, for teachers and administrators to act as cops, just that they be allowed the same right to self defense that the rest of us Texans have, including in church, instead of having to die futilely, as Dr. Suzanna Gratia Hupp’s mother did, bravely shielding her mortally wounded husband’s body, as a person who ignored a “gun free zone” edict carried out a bloody atrocity with the sure knowledge that he was virtually unstoppable.

Give our teachers and administrators back the right to defend themselves, the only disaster we are courting is the next time someone ignores the signs and takes advantage of one of those “gun free zones” and walks through a target rich environment without fear of instant retribution.

jimlongley wrote:My answer to this morning's Dallas Morning News editorial declaring carry by teachers to be "courting disaster."

Even forgetting several other gratuitous errors and fact and logic in your editorial, the problem with your “common sense” test is that it has consistently failed to be sensible.

Gun free zones do not work, have not worked, and do not even come close to providing “safe havens where guns simply have no place.” Long history shows that “gun free zones” are what should not exist, they are breeding grounds for massacres of defenseless innocents: think about it for a minute; From Luby’s to Virginia Tech, the greatest portion of such mass killings has taken place in venues where law abiding citizens were not allowed to exercise their right to defend themselves. Following your logic, gun shows and sporting goods stores should be the places where such things take place, not “safe havens.”

And where have we seen counter examples? At New Life Church, in Colorado Springs, where a “volunteer security guard” carrying under her concealed carry license put a stop to an incipient tragedy by shooting the shooter; at Appalachian School of Law, where two students armed themselves in response to an attack and short circuited it; and at Merkaz Harav Yeshiva in Jerusalem where one civilian with a gun halted another terrorist in his tracks.

Nobody is asking, despite your plaints to the contrary, for teachers and administrators to act as cops, just that they be allowed the same right to self defense that the rest of us Texans have, including in church, instead of having to die futilely, as Dr. Suzanna Gratia Hupp’s mother did, bravely shielding her mortally wounded husband’s body, as a person who ignored a “gun free zone” edict carried out a bloody atrocity with the sure knowledge that he was virtually unstoppable.

Give our teachers and administrators back the right to defend themselves, the only disaster we are courting is the next time someone ignores the signs and takes advantage of one of those “gun free zones” and walks through a target rich environment without fear of instant retribution.

Well and truly said, Jim!

Jim,

Outstanding post to the Dallas paper.

The Houston Chronicle has almost the same editorial this morning.

Please post your response to the Chronicle as well.

Great response Jim.

Just as I finished reading this thread, I flip over to the news and read this:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080821/ap_ ... RJsflvzwcF

Great job Jim

-Cain

jimlongley wrote:My answer to this morning's Dallas Morning News editorial declaring carry by teachers to be "courting disaster."

Even forgetting several other gratuitous errors and fact and logic in your editorial, the problem with your “common sense” test is that it has consistently failed to be sensible.

Gun free zones do not work, have not worked, and do not even come close to providing “safe havens where guns simply have no place.” Long history shows that “gun free zones” are what should not exist, they are breeding grounds for massacres of defenseless innocents: think about it for a minute; From Luby’s to Virginia Tech, the greatest portion of such mass killings has taken place in venues where law abiding citizens were not allowed to exercise their right to defend themselves. Following your logic, gun shows and sporting goods stores should be the places where such things take place, not “safe havens.”

And where have we seen counter examples? At New Life Church, in Colorado Springs, where a “volunteer security guard” carrying under her concealed carry license put a stop to an incipient tragedy by shooting the shooter; at Appalachian School of Law, where two students armed themselves in response to an attack and short circuited it; and at Merkaz Harav Yeshiva in Jerusalem where one civilian with a gun halted another terrorist in his tracks.

Nobody is asking, despite your plaints to the contrary, for teachers and administrators to act as cops, just that they be allowed the same right to self defense that the rest of us Texans have, including in church, instead of having to die futilely, as Dr. Suzanna Gratia Hupp’s mother did, bravely shielding her mortally wounded husband’s body, as a person who ignored a “gun free zone” edict carried out a bloody atrocity with the sure knowledge that he was virtually unstoppable.

Give our teachers and administrators back the right to defend themselves, the only disaster we are courting is the next time someone ignores the signs and takes advantage of one of those “gun free zones” and walks through a target rich environment without fear of instant retribution.

Great response