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I thought I read somewheres that a chl holder could at least leave his/her gun in the vehicle in the parking lot while on campus??? I was in the school police office the other day getting a new parking permit and I asked one of the officers if that was okay and he said no, not only is it against university rules to posses a firearm within 1000' of campus but it was a state law that you couldn't posses a firearm on campus... Is this info correct??? TIA
Dwayne

The officer was incorrect. Firearms are prohibited by Federal law within 1000 feet of a school, but there is a exception for a CHL (or equivalent) holder of the state you are in. Texas law prohibits firearms (even in the possession of a CHL holder) on the premises of a school, but it then goes on to define premises as a building or a portion of a building and specifically excludes parking lots/garages.

PC §46.035:

"Premises" means a building or a portion of a building. The term does not include any public or private driveway, street, sidewalk or walkway, parking lot, parking garage, or other parking area.

PC §46.03 makes the premises of a school off-limits, but then states that the definition of premises from PC §46.035 is to be used, so that is quoted above.

I should add that the school could probably impose an administrative penalty if you were found out (ie. you could be expelled). But you would have broken no law.

I did the same thing in San Marcos... with the same result. However, I have a feeling he knew the actual law, but just told me not to... (very anti)

I never drove ANYWHERE unarmed after reading the truth, and that include campus parking lots

In my case (as a college employee), I could be fired if I parked in a campus parking lot with my pistol secured inside its safe. But it is not a criminal offense.

So I park on the street right outside the building. It's the best workaround I have at this time.

I actually talked to a couple of the campus police at the downtown campus, and they really could care less if you leave a gun locked in your car, mainly because this is where the campus of public policy is, so they know its a bunch of students trying to get a to either go local or federal police. The only real worry they have is if your car gets broken into.

However after talking to the cheif of the university police at the main campus, he said if anyone is found with a gun within its parking lots, he'd have them arrested and let someone sort it out later. That is, after having you expelled, even though theres nothing in the student handbook saying that. (he's beyond anti, how he got to Texas I'll never know)

Monkey404error wrote:However after talking to the cheif of the university police at the main campus, he said if anyone is found with a gun within its parking lots, he'd have them arrested and let someone sort it out later.

I would think this would be grounds for a suit, he knows its legal but has you arrested anyways?

Monkey404error wrote:However after talking to the cheif of the university police at the main campus, he said if anyone is found with a gun within its parking lots, he'd have them arrested and let someone sort it out later.

This guy would then get a good lesson in civil law. An officer cannot make a "good faith" arrest for something that is clearly not illegal. Thus, a §1983 civil rights suit against the individual officer and the school is viable. If that's his attitude, then I'd be happy to show him the error of his ways in court. What an arrogant, power-mad jerk! This is the type of COP that good COPs absolutely hate. Any LEO who states he will make an unlawful arrest and let the defendant deal with it should lose his job, his badge, and his TCLEOSE license.

Sorry, but this attitude burns me up.

Chas.

Charles L. Cotton wrote:Any LEO who states he will make an unlawful arrest and let the defendant deal with it should lose his job, his badge, and his TCLEOSE license. Chas.

It's too bad that more police chiefs, DAs and judges don't feel the same way.

WildBill wrote:

Charles L. Cotton wrote:Any LEO who states he will make an unlawful arrest and let the defendant deal with it should lose his job, his badge, and his TCLEOSE license. Chas.

It's too bad that more police chiefs, DAs and judges don't feel the same way.

WildBill wrote:

Charles L. Cotton wrote:Any LEO who states he will make an unlawful arrest and let the defendant deal with it should lose his job, his badge, and his TCLEOSE license. Chas.

It's too bad that more police chiefs, DAs and judges don't feel the same way.

And as someone who has tried to argue those types of orders, let me ask how fast we can get this implemented.

Texas A&M University, where I am officed, has an official policy on firearms can be found here: http://rules-saps.tamu.edu/PDFs/34.06.02.M1.pdf . It defines "premises" the same way as state law. I read it as I can have my gun in my car, and I can carry in concealed with a CCL on the sidewalk, but I can't carry it into a building.

My particular agency within the TAMU system has further employee restrictions on carrying weapons, namely I can't carry in an agency vehicle or at an agency sponsored function.

J.R.@A&M wrote:Texas A&M University, where I am officed, has an official policy on firearms can be found here: http://rules-saps.tamu.edu/PDFs/34.06.02.M1.pdf . It defines "premises" the same way as state law. I read it as I can have my gun in my car, and I can carry in concealed with a CCL on the sidewalk, but I can't carry it into a building.

My particular agency within the TAMU system has further employee restrictions on carrying weapons, namely I can't carry in an agency vehicle or at an agency sponsored function.

Which is actually still only restating state law, since your agency is the school.

barres wrote:

J.R.@A&M wrote:Texas A&M University, where I am officed, has an official policy on firearms can be found here: http://rules-saps.tamu.edu/PDFs/34.06.02.M1.pdf . It defines "premises" the same way as state law. I read it as I can have my gun in my car, and I can carry in concealed with a CCL on the sidewalk, but I can't carry it into a building.

My particular agency within the TAMU system has further employee restrictions on carrying weapons, namely I can't carry in an agency vehicle or at an agency sponsored function.

Which is actually still only restating state law, since your agency is the school.

Not quite (technically, Texas AgriLife Extension Service is a separately funded state agency from Texas A&M University proper).

J.R.@A&M wrote:

barres wrote:

J.R.@A&M wrote:Texas A&M University, where I am officed, has an official policy on firearms can be found here: http://rules-saps.tamu.edu/PDFs/34.06.02.M1.pdf . It defines "premises" the same way as state law. I read it as I can have my gun in my car, and I can carry in concealed with a CCL on the sidewalk, but I can't carry it into a building.

My particular agency within the TAMU system has further employee restrictions on carrying weapons, namely I can't carry in an agency vehicle or at an agency sponsored function.

Which is actually still only restating state law, since your agency is the school.

Not quite (technically, Texas AgriLife Extension Service is a separately funded state agency from Texas A&M University proper).

Then my apologies, but you did say, "My particular agency within the TAMU system..."