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Blue Mound homeowner kills one intruder, wounds another
Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 9:36 am
by FlynJay
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/5980902.html
BLUE MOUND — A homeowner who saw his wife threatened at gunpoint by an intruder wrested the gun from the man, killed him and wounded another intruder, police said.
The incident happened early today after two men kicked open the front door of the couple's home in this Fort Worth suburb.
Keith and Kellie Hoehn told police the men burst into their house and one of them pointed a shotgun at Mrs. Hoehn's head. She brushed the barrel aside, and a struggle ensued.
The husband got control of the gun and shot both men. The man who survived is being treated at a Fort Worth hospital.
Investigators said the homeowner is unlikely be charged. They said he shot the men out of concern for his sleeping children.
Police suspect that the intruders had broken into the garage of a nearby house earlier in the night.
+1 For situational awareness. I don't know if I could take an intruders shotgun and shoot them with it. He didn't even have to pay for ammo
Re: Blue Mound homeowner kills one intruder, wounds another
Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 10:01 am
by Purplehood
Investigators said the homeowner is unlikely be charged. They said he shot the men out of concern for his sleeping children.
I would have shot the men out of concern for them bursting into my house uninvited...
Re: Blue Mound homeowner kills one intruder, wounds another
Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 10:12 am
by BobCat
I think the point is that shooting them for breaking in is "punishment" or "vigilante justice", and one is only supposed to shoot to avoid harm.
The cops are trying to cut this guy some slack by saying he had reason to shoot, to eliminate a continuing threat to the rest of his family.
If they wanted to be miserable about it, they could say he never ought to have shot the guys once he took the shotgun from one of them, because the immediate threat to him was arguably over at that point.
Re: Blue Mound homeowner kills one intruder, wounds another
Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 10:28 am
by phddan
I don't know.
Seems to me that the deadly threat isn't stopped until the two armed punks are not moving around in my house with my wife and kids there.
Dan
Re: Blue Mound homeowner kills one intruder, wounds another
Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 11:51 am
by Xander
BobCat wrote:I think the point is that shooting them for breaking in is "punishment" or "vigilante justice", and one is only supposed to shoot to avoid harm.
The cops are trying to cut this guy some slack by saying he had reason to shoot, to eliminate a continuing threat to the rest of his family.
If they wanted to be miserable about it, they could say he never ought to have shot the guys once he took the shotgun from one of them, because the immediate threat to him was arguably over at that point.
Not according to the law. They don't have to be armed for there to be justification to use deadly force.
Re: Blue Mound homeowner kills one intruder, wounds another
Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 12:28 pm
by flintknapper
Xander wrote:BobCat wrote:I think the point is that shooting them for breaking in is "punishment" or "vigilante justice", and one is only supposed to shoot to avoid harm.
The cops are trying to cut this guy some slack by saying he had reason to shoot, to eliminate a continuing threat to the rest of his family.
If they wanted to be miserable about it, they could say he never ought to have shot the guys once he took the shotgun from one of them, because the immediate threat to him was arguably over at that point.
Not according to the law. They don't have to be armed for there to be justification to use deadly force.
Not to mention... he is covered by the Castle Doctrine.
Quick thinking by the "wife" to brush away the barrel of the shotgun. You just never know what the outcome of these things might be or what the appropriate response (comply or fight) from the victims should be.
Each case is different, but one thing is sure:
Home Invaders are a "whole 'nother animal" when compared to common burglars. Anyone that has the nerve to break into your home (knowing you are there)... is a serious threat...and will be treated as such in my home.
Re: Blue Mound homeowner kills one intruder, wounds another
Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 12:39 pm
by Purplehood
AMEN.
Re: Blue Mound homeowner kills one intruder, wounds another
Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 3:26 pm
by anygunanywhere
phddan wrote:I don't know.
Seems to me that the deadly threat isn't stopped until the two armed punks are not moving around in my house with my wife and kids there.
Dan
What Dan said.
You are on a roll today.
Anygunanywhere
Re: Blue Mound homeowner kills one intruder, wounds another
Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 3:46 pm
by Greybeard
http://www.star-telegram.com/804/story/880230.html indicates the deceased one actually came back for a "second dose".
Re: Blue Mound homeowner kills one intruder, wounds another
Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 3:55 pm
by Purplehood
That is one helluva Mom and Dad.
It was apparent from the start that the intruders needed to be shot. That article erased any question I may have had on that issue.
Re: Blue Mound homeowner kills one intruder, wounds another
Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 4:15 pm
by WarHawk-AVG
Well he had to get his shotgun back so he could rob the next door neighbor too
Re: Blue Mound homeowner kills one intruder, wounds another
Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 4:30 pm
by Wildscar
star-telegram.com wrote:The couple's son grabbed his little sister and they hid in a closet with a pellet gun, Keith said.
Even the 12 year old was ready to fight them off. Gotta give him praise for that.
Re: Blue Mound homeowner kills one intruder, wounds another
Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 6:25 pm
by Excaliber
Exemplary courage, tenacity, and outstanding teamwork by a couple who really have their act together and were prepared to resist evil when confronted with it.
The children's actions certainly suggest that "what ifs" had been discussed with them prior to the incident.
It also helped that the husband knew how to operate the safety on a Remington 870, and the deceased home invader did not.
Re: Blue Mound homeowner kills one intruder, wounds another
Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 6:35 pm
by MrsFosforos
I just saw this family interviewed on the news. The woman said "I am not heroic, I'm a mother ... he is a father." That says it all.
Re: Blue Mound homeowner kills one intruder, wounds another
Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 6:38 pm
by USMC-COL
I love happy endings. (Wiping away tears)