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Hunt dove from your back porch
Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 12:27 pm
by seamusTX
Texas law allows hunting within city limits in some cases, even if a city ordinance prohibits discharging firearm.
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The relevant law is Local Government Code § 229.001(c)
The exception provided by Subsection (b)(6) does not apply if the firearm is in or is carried to or from an area designated for use in a lawful hunting, fishing, or other sporting event and the firearm is of the type commonly used in the activity.
I try to keep up with these issues, but this one slipped past me.
P.S.: What type of fishing commonly employs firearms?
- Jim
Re: Hunt dove from your back porch
Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 12:29 pm
by WildBill
seamusTX wrote:P.S.: What type of fishing commonly employs firearms? - Jim
Shooting fish in a barrel.

Re: Hunt dove from your back porch
Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 12:30 pm
by seamusTX
Yeah, that occurred to me right at the time that you posted.
- Jim
Re: Hunt dove from your back porch
Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 1:55 pm
by Greybeard
Quote: "What type of fishing commonly employs firearms? "
Where I grew up (TX Panhandle and Western Oklahoma), it was not all unusual for folks to have a firearm in the boat. For use with everthing from water mocs attempting to board to 2-legged critters running someone else's trotline.
Re: Hunt dove from your back porch
Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 6:53 pm
by texasag93
I believe that the legislation came about when a game ranch opened near DFW.
The anti hunters in the near by town annexed the land and put a no discharge of firearms law on the books, so in effect, no hunting on a game ranch.
The Texas legistature put the rule in that if you have so much land, you can discharge your firearm as long as the projectile does not leave the property.
I am sure that someone else on the board can put up the specifics, but it is good to know that SOME GROUPS are still level headed in Austin.
texasag
Re: Hunt dove from your back porch
Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 7:13 pm
by seamusTX
The majority of the Texas legislature and especially Gov. Perry are very much on our side. Pro-RKBA legislation can be defeated only with huge, costly lobbying efforts, such as the one that defeated parking lot carry.
If you do some research about firearms legislation in states like Illinois, California, Maryland, and Massachusetts, you will weep.
- Jim
Re: Hunt dove from your back porch
Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 7:35 pm
by Liberty
seamusTX wrote:
The relevant law is Local Government Code § 229.001(c)
The exception provided by Subsection (b)(6) does not apply if the firearm is in or is carried to or from an area designated for use in a lawful hunting, fishing, or other sporting event and the firearm is of the type commonly used in the activity.
I try to keep up with these issues, but this one slipped past me.
P.S.: What type of fishing commonly employs firearms?
I know lots of lobstermen they all carried in their boats.
Offshore fisherman mostly are armed.
Re: Hunt dove from your back porch
Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 7:56 pm
by seamusTX
Do you know why? Drug runners?
- Jim
Re: Hunt dove from your back porch
Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 8:30 pm
by Liberty
seamusTX wrote:Do you know why? Drug runners?
- Jim
Lobstermen are worry about poachers. selling their traps. Off shore guys are out on their own, often there is no quick responce. They were concerned mostly about drug runners and pirates stealing trying to steal their boats.. Most didn't carry on their person, but stowed somewhere on board.
A lot of fisherfolk and shrimpers around here are Vietnamese and they don't have CHLs and wouldn't concider carrying out on the street. But to them a gun in their boat is like having one in their home or place of business. Except their place of bussiness puts them possibly hours away from any help.
Re: Hunt dove from your back porch
Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 8:40 pm
by seamusTX
Thanks for the response.
That kind of situation really calls for a semi-automatic rifle.
Actually, it calls for a belt-fed .50-caliber machine gun mounted on the prow, but that's hard to arrange legally these days.
Do you know a lot of Vietnamese people? The only ones that i meet work at Pho 20.
- Jim
Re: Hunt dove from your back porch
Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 5:03 am
by Liberty
seamusTX wrote:Thanks for the response.
That kind of situation really calls for a semi-automatic rifle.
Actually, it calls for a belt-fed .50-caliber machine gun mounted on the prow, but that's hard to arrange legally these days.
Do you know a lot of Vietnamese people? The only ones that i meet work at Pho 20.
- Jim
Not so much since I moved to Galveston, I knew a family casually before I moves here, I was more familiar, with the fishing industry of New England. A few Lobsterman would keep a shotgun in in a gun rack.
I got to thinking though that packing in the gulf might be less common than I remember, it does seem the violence has moved more inland than it was in the 80s and early 90s
Re: Hunt dove from your back porch
Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 8:03 am
by age_ranger
From what I understand (this is from a Lewisville SWAT member) it is legal to shoot BB/pellet guns on your OWN property as long as the projectiles do not leave the property. Hence, dove season just opened up at my mothers house.

Re: Hunt dove from your back porch
Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 10:11 am
by casingpoint
What type of fishing commonly employs firearms
Gar fishing. You have to kill a big gar before bringing it aboard. Otherwise, he will kill you once inside the boat.
it was not all unusual for folks to have a firearm in the boat. For use with everthing from water mocs attempting to board to 2-legged critters running someone else's trotline.
Those things are not fishing. The statute does not say "fishing related," or any one could carry a gun while fishing and the statute would be nonsensical. The Texas Legislature does not intend to make nonsense.
The Texas legistature put the rule in that if you have so much land, you can discharge your firearm as long as the projectile does not leave the property.
You shoot at a bird in the sky. How is the DA gonna prove beyond a shadow of a doubt the projectiles left the boundaries of your property?

Re: Hunt dove from your back porch
Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 3:15 pm
by texasag93
On a local (DFW) news program, they had several home owners who were really mad that this was happening next to their home and others who were upset that hunters could hunt accross the street from schools.
One person held up a piece of shot that looked more like 00 Buck, not 7 1/2 or 8 bird shot.
texasag
Re: Hunt dove from your back porch
Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 5:45 pm
by WildBill
age_ranger wrote:From what I understand (this is from a Lewisville SWAT member) it is legal to shoot BB/pellet guns on your OWN property as long as the projectiles do not leave the property. Hence, dove season just opened up at my mothers house.

BB and pellet guns aren't firearms, so they have different rules.