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Range Report: PX4 sub-compact

Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 10:01 pm
by agbullet2k1
I finally got the chance to head to Texas City Municipal Range (yes, they're open for business) and try out the little fellow. Overall, I'll say that it lived up to its hype. It truly was a pleasure to shoot, and even though it's a sub-compact, I was able to put 500 rounds through it with barely any fatigue. I would have kept going, if I had not run out of ammunition. With my old Glock 27, I was only ever able to put about 150 rounds through it before I was forced to call it a day.

Notes: Using WWB 115-gr 9mm
-Recoil is very light, and I was able to produce very good double-taps from 7 yards. I really think this gun functions just fine without the rotating barrel. Even with +P loads, it was very controllable.
-The pinky extension magazine fit my hand perfectly, and the non extending mag was still not too bad. The pinky extension does take a lot of playing with to loosen up. It will be my primary magazine (see problems encountered below).
-The DA trigger was very smooth, and the SA trigger is more sensitive than I would have thought.
-There was no noticeable decrease in accuracy as more rounds were fired.
-Beretta used dark magic when designing the extraction system. Spent shells go reeeeaaaallly far, and can probably be counted as a secondary attack system of the gun.

With defense loads: These shots were from 7 yards, one second apart, first shot was DA and the following shots were SA.
Remington Golden Saber, 124-gr +P
I bought these specifically for this gun, primarily because they were the only defense rounds in stock at the store. It's hard to tell from the shrunk down picture, but there is a double hole.
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Winchester Ranger Bonded, 124-gr +P
Had these lying around from the Walther, and figured I would give them a try. These did not perform as well. It took 7 shots to get 5 on target. :grumble
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Speer Gold Dot, 124-gr +P
These did about as well as I would have hoped, considering I use them for the full size PX4 and the Walther.
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Control, using Walther P99AS, Speer Gold Dot 124-gr +P
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Overall, it's a draw for the Speers and the Remingtons. I've put more Gold Dot through paper though, so I'll continue to use them for now as long as prices are about equal. I won't say no to Remingtons if I find a good deal though. :mrgreen:

Problems encountered:
There's really only one thing to mention, and that's the "normal" magazine. Three times today it failed to engage the slide lock when empty. Technically, this doesn't count as a FTF or FTE, but it still makes your heart jump when you pull the trigger and hear "click."

I have not heard of anyone else having this issue, and I'm hoping it'll be fixed with a bit of breaking in. I'll probably send a note Beretta's way to see if they've heard anything similar.

Not really a problem, per se, but worth mentioning, is how hard it is to clean. Being smaller than the full size, some of the nooks and crannies are also smaller, and really like to collect grime. The business end of the barrel has a groove that is very difficult to clean, and is also visible, making it something of an eyesore if you're really picky about your gun being spotless (being stainless doesn't help hide anything either).

So in conclusion, I'd definitely recommend this gun to anyone, period. It's small enough to be concealed, but also is enjoyable for a day at the range.

Re: Range Report: PX4 sub-compact

Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 10:29 pm
by bridge
Nice write up, thanks. I was down at Texas City Municipal myself today breaking in my new Colt Commander. My first time going there, nice range.

Re: Range Report: PX4 sub-compact

Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 10:02 am
by wilder
Thanks for the report. I enjoy my full sized PX4 and am very interested in trying one of these when they become more readily available.

Re: Range Report: PX4 sub-compact

Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 10:13 am
by Wildscar
Thats a good review. Thanks for it. Im sure the Beretta Forum would like to see that. :thumbs2:

Re: Range Report: PX4 sub-compact

Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 7:38 pm
by John
agbullet2k1 wrote:There's really only one thing to mention, and that's the "normal" magazine. Three times today it failed to engage the slide lock when empty.
Thank you for the write up... What is the "normal" magazine? -John

Re: Range Report: PX4 sub-compact

Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 7:45 pm
by agbullet2k1
John wrote:
agbullet2k1 wrote:There's really only one thing to mention, and that's the "normal" magazine. Three times today it failed to engage the slide lock when empty.
Thank you for the write up... What is the "normal" magazine? -John
The normal one is the one without the pinky extender.

Re: Range Report: PX4 sub-compact

Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 9:34 pm
by biggyin
[quote]Three times today it failed to engage the slide lock when empty./quote]

Had this problem with the full size for a while and found my high grip with thumbs forward were resting slightly on the slide release. So when I thought it was not holding, it was actually my grip releasing it! Changed my grip slightly and problem solved! Wonder if the compact size is forcing you to make the same mistake?

Re: Range Report: PX4 sub-compact

Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 5:44 am
by Beiruty
This is my next purchase for a handgun. The only issue is that it is available in F type and I like it in G type like my HK P30.

Re: Range Report: PX4 sub-compact

Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 6:09 am
by Excaliber
biggyin wrote:
Three times today it failed to engage the slide lock when empty./quote]

Had this problem with the full size for a while and found my high grip with thumbs forward were resting slightly on the slide release. So when I thought it was not holding, it was actually my grip releasing it! Changed my grip slightly and problem solved! Wonder if the compact size is forcing you to make the same mistake?
This is a very common issue with small carry guns, and the grip adjustment is usually the solution. The opposite problem (slide locking open in the middle of a firing string) can also occur from grip interference with the slide stop.

Re: Range Report: PX4 sub-compact

Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 7:43 am
by agbullet2k1
Excaliber wrote:
biggyin wrote:
Three times today it failed to engage the slide lock when empty./quote]

Had this problem with the full size for a while and found my high grip with thumbs forward were resting slightly on the slide release. So when I thought it was not holding, it was actually my grip releasing it! Changed my grip slightly and problem solved! Wonder if the compact size is forcing you to make the same mistake?
This is a very common issue with small carry guns, and the grip adjustment is usually the solution. The opposite problem (slide locking open in the middle of a firing string) can also occur from grip interference with the slide stop.
I'll give it a try this weekend when the wifey gets to try it. I'm thinking that if it were the grip, it would show on both mags, but then again, each mag has a different style of grip, so it is definitely possible.
Beiruty wrote:This is my next purchase for a handgun. The only issue is that it is available in F type and I like it in G type like my HK P30.
It is possible to convert an F to a G with a little smithing.
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Re: Range Report: PX4 sub-compact

Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 6:19 pm
by Broge5
Glad to see such a good report. I bought one of these for my wife seems like forever ago, and with our opposite schedules, haven't been able to shoot the little thing. She's going out of town for a few days. I may just have to "break it in" for her while she's gone. Sure looks great though.

Re: Range Report: PX4 sub-compact

Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 6:30 pm
by agbullet2k1
Broge5 wrote:Glad to see such a good report. I bought one of these for my wife seems like forever ago, and with our opposite schedules, haven't been able to shoot the little thing. She's going out of town for a few days. I may just have to "break it in" for her while she's gone. Sure looks great though.
So you're the one that kept me from getting one months ago? :totap:

Re: Range Report: PX4 sub-compact

Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 7:59 am
by jlangton
Where are you guys finding these for purchase? I've yet to even see one,much less be able to handle or purchase one.
JL

Re: Range Report: PX4 sub-compact

Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 8:02 am
by agbullet2k1
Carter's Country. They had 2 the day I called last week. They're the only ones in Houston that I've contacted who have received any.

Re: Range Report: PX4 sub-compact

Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 8:35 am
by jlangton
agbullet2k1 wrote:Carter's Country. They had 2 the day I called last week. They're the only ones in Houston that I've contacted who have received any.
What were they selling for?
JL